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From: Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/9] procfs: protect /proc/<pid>/* files with file->f_cred
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:26:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131002182643.GC2485@dztty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrW05=Jk_nCakZgjwJjbdG-X-f=ssFntB3Xpe1ogxiTMFQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:00:26AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 06:40:41PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>>> On 10/01/2013 01:26 PM, Djalal Harouni wrote:
> >>>> > /proc/<pid>/* entries varies at runtime, appropriate permission checks
> >>>> > need to happen during each system call.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Currently some of these sensitive entries are protected by performing
> >>>> > the ptrace_may_access() check. However even with that the /proc file
> >>>> > descriptors can be passed to a more privileged process
> >>>> > (e.g. a suid-exec) which will pass the classic ptrace_may_access()
> >>>> > check. In general the ->open() call will be issued by an unprivileged
> >>>> > process while the ->read(),->write() calls by a more privileged one.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Example of these files are:
> >>>> > /proc/*/syscall, /proc/*/stack etc.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > And any open(/proc/self/*) then suid-exec to read()/write() /proc/self/*
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > These files are protected during read() by the ptrace_may_access(),
> >>>> > however the file descriptor can be passed to a suid-exec which can be
> >>>> > used to read data and bypass ASLR. Of course this was discussed several
> >>>> > times on LKML.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you elaborate on what it is that you're fixing?  That is, can you
> >>>> give a concrete example of what process opens what file and passes the
> >>>> fd to what process?
> >>> Yes, the references were already given in this email:
> >>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/31/209
> >>>
> >>> This has been discussed several times on lkml:
> >>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/28/544
> >>>
> >>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/28/564 (check Kees's references)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I'm having trouble following your description.
> >>> Process open a /proc file and pass the fd to a more privilaged process
> >>> that will pass the ptrace_may_access() check, while the original process
> >>> that opened that file should fail at the ptrace_may_access()
> >>
> >> So we're talking about two kinds of attacks, right?
> >
> > Correct.
> >
> >> Type 1: Unprivileged process does something like open("/proc/1/maps",
> >> O_RDONLY) and then passes the resulting fd to something privileged.
> >
> > ... and then leaks contents back to unprivileged process.
> >
> >> Type 2: Unprivileged process does something like
> >> open("/proc/self/maps", O_RDONLY) and then forks.  The parent calls
> >> execve on something privileged.
> >
> > ... and then parent snoops on file contents for the privileged child.
> >
> > (Type 2 is solved currently, IIUC. Type 1 could be reduced in scope by
> > changing these file modes back to 0400.)
> >
> >> Can we really not get away with fixing type 1 by preventing these
> >> files from being opened in the first place and type 2 by revoking all
> >> of these fds when a privilege-changing exec happens?
> >
> > Type 1 can be done via exec as well. Instead of using a priv exec to
> > read an arbitrary process, read it could read its own.
> 
> Right.
> 
> >
> > I think revoking the fd would be great. Does that mechanism exist?
> 
> There's this thing that never got merged.
> 
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1523331
> 
> But doing it more directly should be reasonably straightforward.  Either:
> 
> (a) when a process execs and privileges change, find all the old proc
> inodes, mark them dead, and unlink them, or
Will take a look at it.

> (b) add self_exec_id to all the proc file private_data entries (or
> somewhere else).  Then just make sure that they're unchanged.  I think
> the bug last time around was because the self_exec_id and struct pid
> weren't being compared together.
The bug was about self_exec_id not beeing unique. self_exec_id stuff
must be unique during life time as it's done currently in grsecurity
with exec_id.

-- 
Djalal Harouni
http://opendz.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-02 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-01 20:26 [PATCH v2 0/9] procfs: protect /proc/<pid>/* files with file->f_cred Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] procfs: add proc_same_open_cred() to check if the cred have changed Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] procfs: add proc_allow_access() to check if file's opener may access task Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02  1:36   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 14:55     ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:44       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 14:36         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:12           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 19:29             ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 19:37               ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 20:13                 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 21:09                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04  8:59                     ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 15:40                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 18:23                         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 18:34                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:11                             ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 19:16                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:27                                 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 19:32                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:41                                     ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 22:17                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 22:55                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-04 22:59                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 23:08                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-05  0:35                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-09 10:35                                               ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-05 13:23                                         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-07 21:41                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-09 10:54                                             ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-09 11:15                                               ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-09 17:27                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-13 10:18                                                 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] procfs: Document the proposed solution to protect procfs entries Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] procfs: make /proc/*/{stack,syscall} 0400 Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] procfs: make /proc entries that use seq files able to access file->f_cred Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] procfs: add permission checks on the file's opener of /proc/*/stat Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02  1:39   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 15:14     ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:46       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 19:00         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] procfs: add permission checks on the file's opener of /proc/*/personality Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] procfs: improve permission checks on /proc/*/stack Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] procfs: improve permission checks on /proc/*/syscall Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02  1:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] procfs: protect /proc/<pid>/* files with file->f_cred Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 14:37   ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:51     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 17:48       ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 18:00         ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 18:07           ` Kees Cook
2013-10-03 23:14             ` Julien Tinnes
2013-10-02 18:26           ` Djalal Harouni [this message]
2013-10-02 18:41             ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:22         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:35           ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 18:48             ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 19:43               ` Kees Cook
2013-10-03  6:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-03 12:29                 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:15                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 15:40                     ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:50                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 18:37                         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04  9:05                 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:12       ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03  6:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-03 12:56           ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 13:39             ` Ingo Molnar

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