From: Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
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Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/9] procfs: protect /proc/<pid>/* files with file->f_cred
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:48:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131002184844.GB3393@dztty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jL3iReSCfRRXGaKp4dikh5f3BR55NbVEXHrTscTSDgeZA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:35:45AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 10:48:55AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 06:40:41PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> >>> On 10/01/2013 01:26 PM, Djalal Harouni wrote:
> >> >>> > /proc/<pid>/* entries varies at runtime, appropriate permission checks
> >> >>> > need to happen during each system call.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Currently some of these sensitive entries are protected by performing
> >> >>> > the ptrace_may_access() check. However even with that the /proc file
> >> >>> > descriptors can be passed to a more privileged process
> >> >>> > (e.g. a suid-exec) which will pass the classic ptrace_may_access()
> >> >>> > check. In general the ->open() call will be issued by an unprivileged
> >> >>> > process while the ->read(),->write() calls by a more privileged one.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Example of these files are:
> >> >>> > /proc/*/syscall, /proc/*/stack etc.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > And any open(/proc/self/*) then suid-exec to read()/write() /proc/self/*
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > These files are protected during read() by the ptrace_may_access(),
> >> >>> > however the file descriptor can be passed to a suid-exec which can be
> >> >>> > used to read data and bypass ASLR. Of course this was discussed several
> >> >>> > times on LKML.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Can you elaborate on what it is that you're fixing? That is, can you
> >> >>> give a concrete example of what process opens what file and passes the
> >> >>> fd to what process?
> >> >> Yes, the references were already given in this email:
> >> >> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/31/209
> >> >>
> >> >> This has been discussed several times on lkml:
> >> >> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/28/544
> >> >>
> >> >> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/28/564 (check Kees's references)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> I'm having trouble following your description.
> >> >> Process open a /proc file and pass the fd to a more privilaged process
> >> >> that will pass the ptrace_may_access() check, while the original process
> >> >> that opened that file should fail at the ptrace_may_access()
> >> >
> >> > So we're talking about two kinds of attacks, right?
> >>
> >> Correct.
> >>
> >> > Type 1: Unprivileged process does something like open("/proc/1/maps",
> >> > O_RDONLY) and then passes the resulting fd to something privileged.
> >>
> >> ... and then leaks contents back to unprivileged process.
> >>
> >> > Type 2: Unprivileged process does something like
> >> > open("/proc/self/maps", O_RDONLY) and then forks. The parent calls
> >> > execve on something privileged.
> >>
> >> ... and then parent snoops on file contents for the privileged child.
> >>
> >> (Type 2 is solved currently, IIUC. Type 1 could be reduced in scope by
> >> changing these file modes back to 0400.)
> > Kees for 0400 on /proc/*/maps, it was reported that it could break glibc
>
> I didn't mean maps should be 0400. The maps file is already handled
> differently (pinning mm at open time). I didn't think it was one of
> the problematic files.
Kees currently all these files can be used to leak data, except for
/proc/*/{mem,environ}
These are the only one that pin the mm at open time. But I'm not sure
that this solution will work for /proc/*/maps since they need vma info
which will be perhaps freed if task execv, Need to check it.
> Regardless, glibc uses /proc/self/maps, which would be fine here, right?
I did not touch /proc/self/maps and others, but I'm planning to fix them
if this solution is accepted.
I'll do the same thing as in /proc/*/stat for maps, let it be 0444, and
try to delay the check to ->read(). So during ->read() perform
ptrace_may_access() on currenct's cred and process_allow_access() on
file's opener cred. This should work.
> -Kees
>
> --
> Kees Cook
> Chrome OS Security
--
Djalal Harouni
http://opendz.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-02 18:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-01 20:26 [PATCH v2 0/9] procfs: protect /proc/<pid>/* files with file->f_cred Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] procfs: add proc_same_open_cred() to check if the cred have changed Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] procfs: add proc_allow_access() to check if file's opener may access task Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 1:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 14:55 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 14:36 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 19:29 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 19:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 20:13 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 21:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 8:59 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 15:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 18:23 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 18:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:11 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 19:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:27 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 19:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:41 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 22:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 22:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-04 22:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 23:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-05 0:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-09 10:35 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-05 13:23 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-07 21:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-09 10:54 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-09 11:15 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-09 17:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-13 10:18 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] procfs: Document the proposed solution to protect procfs entries Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] procfs: make /proc/*/{stack,syscall} 0400 Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] procfs: make /proc entries that use seq files able to access file->f_cred Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] procfs: add permission checks on the file's opener of /proc/*/stat Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 1:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 15:14 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 19:00 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] procfs: add permission checks on the file's opener of /proc/*/personality Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] procfs: improve permission checks on /proc/*/stack Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] procfs: improve permission checks on /proc/*/syscall Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 1:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] procfs: protect /proc/<pid>/* files with file->f_cred Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 14:37 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 17:48 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 18:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 18:07 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-03 23:14 ` Julien Tinnes
2013-10-02 18:26 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:41 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:22 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:35 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 18:48 ` Djalal Harouni [this message]
2013-10-02 19:43 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-03 6:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-03 12:29 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 15:40 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 18:37 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 9:05 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:12 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 6:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-03 12:56 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 13:39 ` Ingo Molnar
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