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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/17] RCU'd vfsmounts
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 21:41:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131003204142.GL13318@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw-Yp7xEG3cnU1hcVXAHNGkCoomm0NsUt_Adf=mrauSHw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 01:19:16PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Hmm. The CPU2 mntput can only happen under RCU readlock, right? After
> the RCU grace period _and_ if the umount is going ahead, nothing
> should have a mnt pointer, right?

umount -l doesn't care.

> So I'm wondering if you couldn't just have a synchronize_rcu() in that
> umount path, after clearing mnt_ns. At that point you _know_ you're
> the only one that should have access to the mnt.

We have it there.  See namespace_unlock().  And you are right about the
locking rules for umount_tree(), except that caller is responsible
for dropping those.  With (potentially final) mntput() happening after
both (well, as part of namespace_unlock(), done after synchronize_rcu()).

The problem is this:
A = 1, B = 1
CPU1:
A = 0
<full barrier>
synchronize_rcu()
read B

CPU2:
rcu_read_lock()
B = 0
read A

Are we guaranteed that we won't get both of them seeing ones, in situation
when that rcu_read_lock() comes too late to be noticed by synchronize_rcu()?

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-03 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-03  6:20 [PATCH 17/17] RCU'd vfsmounts Al Viro
     [not found] ` <CA+55aFzeDP6J4ekdn4-85yoXzX3xmEp_qc3npvqepJM+MFn=6Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <20131003105130.GE13318@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]     ` <CA+55aFzh+n_2fs=aWcT_5gnLC_pWSHqQPJeQ+fg=+Xw7ib9=dQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <20131003174439.GG13318@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
2013-10-03 19:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-03 19:43           ` Al Viro
2013-10-03 20:19             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-03 20:41               ` Al Viro [this message]
2013-10-03 20:52                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-03 21:14                   ` Al Viro
2013-10-04  2:53                     ` Al Viro
2013-10-04  8:37                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-10-04 12:58                         ` Al Viro
2013-10-04 14:00                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-10-03 23:28                   ` Josh Triplett
2013-10-03 23:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-04  0:41                       ` Josh Triplett
2013-10-04  0:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-04  6:41                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-04  5:29                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-04  6:03                       ` Josh Triplett
2013-10-04  6:15                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-04  7:04                           ` Josh Triplett

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