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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/17] RCU'd vfsmounts
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 22:14:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131003211448.GN13318@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFybjMDwdfV2uoGL=8U4c1tytjMwk4sU187e6ha2xQ=3+Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 01:52:45PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Yeah, I think we should be guaranteed that, because the
> synchronize_rcu() will guarantee that all other CPU's go through an
> idle period. So the "read A" on CPU2 cannot possibly see a 1 _unless_
> it happens so early that synchronize_rcu() definitely sees it (ie it's
> a "preexisting reader" by definition), in which case synchronize_rcu()
> will be waiting for a subsequent idle period, in which case the B=0 on
> CPU2 is not only guaranteed to happen but also be visible out, so the
> "read B" on CPU1 will see 0. And that's true even if CPU2 doesn't have
> an explicit memory barrier, because the "RCU idle" state implies that
> it has gone through a barrier.
> 
> So I don't see how they could possibly see ones. Modulo terminal bugs
> in synchronize_barrier() (which can be very slow, but for umount I
> wouldn't worry). Or modulo my brain being fried.

There's one more place similar to that - kern_unmount().  There we also
go from "longterm vfsmount, mntput() doesn't need to bother checking"
to NULL ->mnt_ns.  We can, of course, slap synchronize_rcu() there as
well, but that might make pid_ns and ipc_ns destruction slow...

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-03 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-03  6:20 [PATCH 17/17] RCU'd vfsmounts Al Viro
     [not found] ` <CA+55aFzeDP6J4ekdn4-85yoXzX3xmEp_qc3npvqepJM+MFn=6Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <20131003105130.GE13318@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]     ` <CA+55aFzh+n_2fs=aWcT_5gnLC_pWSHqQPJeQ+fg=+Xw7ib9=dQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <20131003174439.GG13318@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
2013-10-03 19:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-03 19:43           ` Al Viro
2013-10-03 20:19             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-03 20:41               ` Al Viro
2013-10-03 20:52                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-03 21:14                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2013-10-04  2:53                     ` Al Viro
2013-10-04  8:37                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-10-04 12:58                         ` Al Viro
2013-10-04 14:00                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-10-03 23:28                   ` Josh Triplett
2013-10-03 23:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-04  0:41                       ` Josh Triplett
2013-10-04  0:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-04  6:41                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-04  5:29                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-04  6:03                       ` Josh Triplett
2013-10-04  6:15                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-04  7:04                           ` Josh Triplett

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