From: Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/9] procfs: add proc_allow_access() to check if file's opener may access task
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:15:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131009111556.GA8781@dztty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131009105402.GA4810@dztty>
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:54:02AM +0100, Djalal Harouni wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 02:41:33PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 03:17:08PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Exactly. Hence the NAK.
> > > But Having two LSM Hooks there is really not practical!
> >
> > It'd doable *if* it turns out that it's the right solution.
> >
> > But revoke seems much more likely to be simple, comprehensible, and
> > obviously correct to me.
> Yes Andy, I agree, revoke is much better!
>
> But it will not handle or fix all the situations, as I've said what if
> revoke is not invloved here? there is no an execve from the target task!
>
>
> Remember:
> /proc/*/{stat,maps} and perhaps others have 0444 and don't have ptrace
> checks during ->open() to not break some userspace... especially
> /proc/*/stat file
>
>
> So you will have an fd on these privileged files!
>
> Current will execve a privileged process, and pass ptrace_may_access()
> checks during ->read()...
>
> Here revoke is not involved at all! so it will not fix these files and
> they will continue to be vulnerable.
>
> IMO to fix them, we must have the correct ptrace_may_access() check and
> this involves: current doing an execve + current's cred
>
>
>
> BTW, Andy we already return 0 (end of file) for /proc/*/mem
> ->read()
> ->mem_read()
> ->mem_rw()
> if (!atomic_inc_not_zero(&mm->mm_users))
> return 0
>
> So can this be considered some sort of simple revoke?
Or create dummy compat-quirk maps inode as Ingo put it in the other mail:
00000000-00000000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
...
For /proc/*/maps files, to not break userspace
--
Djalal Harouni
http://opendz.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-09 11:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-01 20:26 [PATCH v2 0/9] procfs: protect /proc/<pid>/* files with file->f_cred Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] procfs: add proc_same_open_cred() to check if the cred have changed Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] procfs: add proc_allow_access() to check if file's opener may access task Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 1:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 14:55 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 14:36 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 19:29 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 19:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 20:13 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 21:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 8:59 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 15:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 18:23 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 18:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:11 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 19:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:27 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 19:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:41 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 22:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 22:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-04 22:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 23:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-05 0:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-09 10:35 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-05 13:23 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-07 21:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-09 10:54 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-09 11:15 ` Djalal Harouni [this message]
2013-10-09 17:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-13 10:18 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] procfs: Document the proposed solution to protect procfs entries Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] procfs: make /proc/*/{stack,syscall} 0400 Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] procfs: make /proc entries that use seq files able to access file->f_cred Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] procfs: add permission checks on the file's opener of /proc/*/stat Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 1:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 15:14 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 19:00 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] procfs: add permission checks on the file's opener of /proc/*/personality Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] procfs: improve permission checks on /proc/*/stack Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] procfs: improve permission checks on /proc/*/syscall Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 1:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] procfs: protect /proc/<pid>/* files with file->f_cred Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 14:37 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 17:48 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 18:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 18:07 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-03 23:14 ` Julien Tinnes
2013-10-02 18:26 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:41 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:22 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:35 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 18:48 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 19:43 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-03 6:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-03 12:29 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 15:40 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 18:37 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 9:05 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:12 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 6:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-03 12:56 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 13:39 ` Ingo Molnar
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