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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Chinmay V S <cvs268@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG <s.priebe@profihost.ag>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	matthew@wil.cx
Subject: Re: Why is O_DSYNC on linux so slow / what's wrong with my SSD?
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:37:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131120153703.GA23160@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK-9PRDyGhXPef-Vbt83Os-oowFZ2HzSZVY9PH3rSdnTwNmf2w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 08:52:36PM +0530, Chinmay V S wrote:
> 
> If you have confirmed the performance numbers, then it indicates that
> the Intel 530 controller is more advanced and makes better use of the
> internal disk-cache to achieve better performance (as compared to the
> Intel 520). Thus forcing CMD_FLUSH on each IOP (negating the benefits
> of the disk write-cache and not allowing any advanced disk controller
> optimisations) has a more pronouced effect of degrading the
> performance on Intel 530 SSDs. (Someone with some actual info on Intel
> SSDs kindly confirm this.)

You might also want to do some power fail testing to make sure that
the SSD is actually flusing all of its internal Flash Translation
Layer (FTL) metadata to stable storage on every CMD_FLUSH command.

There are lots of flash media that don't do this, with the result that
I get lots of users whining at me when their file system stored on an
SD card has massive corruption after a power fail event.

Historically, Intel has been really good about avoiding this, but
since they've moved to using 3rd party flash controllers, I now advise
everyone who plans to use any flash storage, regardless of the
manufacturer, to do their own explicit power fail testing (hitting the
reset button is not good enough, you need to kick the power plug out
of the wall, or better yet, use a network controlled power switch you
so you can repeat the power fail test dozens or hundreds of times for
your qualification run) before being using flash storage in a mission
critical situation where you care about data integrity after a power
fail event.

IOW, make sure that the SSD isn't faster because it's playing fast and
loose with the FTL metadata....

Cheers,

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-20 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-20 12:12 Why is O_DSYNC on linux so slow / what's wrong with my SSD? Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2013-11-20 12:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-20 13:34   ` Chinmay V S
2013-11-20 13:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-20 14:12     ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2013-11-20 15:22       ` Chinmay V S
2013-11-20 15:37         ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2013-11-20 15:55           ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-20 17:11             ` Chinmay V S
2013-11-20 17:58               ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-20 18:43                 ` Chinmay V S
2013-11-21 10:11                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-22 20:01                     ` Stefan Priebe
2013-11-22 20:37                       ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-22 21:05                         ` Stefan Priebe
2013-11-23 18:27                         ` Stefan Priebe
2013-11-23 19:35                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-23 19:48                             ` Stefan Priebe
2013-11-25  7:37                             ` Stefan Priebe
2020-01-08  6:58                             ` slow sync performance on LSI / Broadcom MegaRaid performance with battery cache Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2013-11-22 19:57             ` Why is O_DSYNC on linux so slow / what's wrong with my SSD? Stefan Priebe
2013-11-24  0:10               ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-11-20 16:02           ` Howard Chu
2013-11-23 20:36             ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-23 23:01               ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-24  0:22                 ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-24  1:03                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-11-24  2:43                   ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-22 19:55         ` Stefan Priebe

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