From: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] Add XIP support to ext4
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:31:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131218023143.GA24491@parisc-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131217223050.GB20579@dastard>
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 09:30:50AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 02:18:25PM -0500, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > For v3, we've addressed the problem with unwritten extents that Dave
> > Chinner pointed out.
>
> No, you haven't addressed the problem. There is nothing in this
> patch set that converts an unwritten extent after it is written to.
> Hence on every subsequent read will return zeros because the block
> is still marked as unwritten.
I don't understand. Here's the path as I understand it:
xip_file_write -> __xip_file_write -> ext4_get_xip_mem(create=0),
returns -ENODATA. So we call ext4_get_xip_mem again, this time with
create=1 which causes ext4_get_block() to allocate blocks.
> Further, write page faults won't do unwritten extent conversion or
> block allocation, either, because:
>
> You wire .mmap up to xip_file_mmap, which wires up .page_mkwrite
> like this:
>
> static const struct vm_operations_struct xip_file_vm_ops = {
> .fault = xip_file_fault,
> .page_mkwrite = filemap_page_mkwrite,
> .remap_pages = generic_file_remap_pages,
> };
>
> and filemap_page_mkwrite() does none of the special stuff that
> ext4_page_mkwrite() does for handling unwritten extents, allocating
> blocks for faults over holes in files, etc.
Again, I don't think that's a problem. The first time we take a page
fault, we call xip_file_fault() which installs a PFN map if there's
no hole. If there is a hole, and the mapping is writable, it calls
get_xip_mem with create=1 again, causing the extent to be allocated,
so we never get an unwritten extent mapped to userspace.
> We actually have an xfstests test that test whether mmap and
> unwritten extents work correctly - xfs/166 - but there's nothing
> XFS specific about it anymore. it could easily be made generic
> simply by replacing xfs_bmap with the xfs_io fiemap command....
Thanks. I'll put that on the increasingly-long todo list ...
> Also, you haven't address the read vs truncate races I pointed out.
> That is, buffered read currently serialises against truncate via a
> combination of inode size checks and page locks. i.e. after each
> page is locked, it is checked to see if it is beyond EOF before
> the read proceeds into that page. the XIP path does not have any
> page locks, nor read IO locks, and so is not in any way serialised
> against a truncate changing the size of the inode while the read is
> in progress.
Umm ... what do you think patch 1/3 does? If you think it doesn't fix
the race, I need you to explain why.
--
Matthew Wilcox Intel Open Source Technology Centre
"Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this
operating system, but compare it to ours. We can't possibly take such
a retrograde step."
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-18 2:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-17 19:18 [PATCH v3 0/3] Add XIP support to ext4 Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-17 19:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] Fix XIP fault vs truncate race Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-17 19:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] xip: Add xip_zero_page_range Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-17 19:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] ext4: Add XIP functionality Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-17 22:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Add XIP support to ext4 Dave Chinner
2013-12-18 2:31 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2013-12-18 5:01 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-18 14:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19 2:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-19 4:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19 4:37 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-19 5:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-19 15:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19 16:17 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-19 17:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19 17:18 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-20 18:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-20 19:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-20 20:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-23 3:36 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-23 3:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-23 4:32 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-23 6:56 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-23 14:51 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-23 3:16 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-24 16:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-18 12:33 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-18 15:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19 0:48 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-19 1:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19 1:58 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-19 15:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19 23:46 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-20 16:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-23 4:14 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-18 18:13 ` Eric Sandeen
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