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From: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] Add XIP support to ext4
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 21:12:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131219041240.GA19166@parisc-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131219020759.GA27469@thunk.org>

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 09:07:59PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 07:27:49AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > 
> > I think there is a callback in xip_file_write(), and it's get_xip_mem().
> > From what you're saying, it sounds like it's just not doing enough.
> 
> The problem is that git_xip_mem() is called before we write to the
> memory, right?
> 
> We need to convert the uninit extents to be marked as initialized in
> *after* the write has been sent to the storage medium.

Now that I've spent the best part of a day looking at the ext4 code, I
still don't think there's a problem here.  With the way the XIP code is
currently written (calling ext4_get_block with create=1), we won't get an
uninitialised extent in the caller.  Instead, we'll get one that's been
zeroed (the zeroing is part of patch 3/3 and done only for xip files).

As I understand it, when ext4 uses direct I/O, it can pass
ext4_get_block_write() as the get_block method, which uses the
magic EXT4_GET_BLOCKS_IO_CREATE_EXT flag to permit the allocation of
uninitialised extents.  But the regular ext4_get_block cannot create
uninitialised extents (it can return them in the case of create=0,
and we handle that correctly as a hole).

Moreover, I don't see, eg, block_read_full_page() handling uninitialised
extents specially, so I'm pretty sure the regular ext4_get_block()
can't create uninitialised extents.

-- 
Matthew Wilcox				Intel Open Source Technology Centre
"Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this
operating system, but compare it to ours.  We can't possibly take such
a retrograde step."

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-19  4:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-17 19:18 [PATCH v3 0/3] Add XIP support to ext4 Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-17 19:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] Fix XIP fault vs truncate race Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-17 19:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] xip: Add xip_zero_page_range Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-17 19:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] ext4: Add XIP functionality Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-17 22:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Add XIP support to ext4 Dave Chinner
2013-12-18  2:31   ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-18  5:01     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-18 14:27       ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19  2:07         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-19  4:12           ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2013-12-19  4:37             ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-19  5:43             ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-19 15:20               ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19 16:17                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-19 17:12                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19 17:18                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-20 18:17                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-20 19:34                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-20 20:11                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-23  3:36                             ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-23  3:45                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-23  4:32                                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-23  6:56                                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-23 14:51                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-23  3:16                         ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-24 16:27                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-18 12:33     ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-18 15:22       ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19  0:48         ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-19  1:05           ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19  1:58             ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-19 15:32               ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-19 23:46                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-20 16:45                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-12-23  4:14                     ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-18 18:13   ` Eric Sandeen

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