From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] fs: xattr-based FS_IOC_[GS]ETFLAGS interface
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 12:04:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140107170430.GA2822@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140107154935.GA17609@infradead.org>
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 07:49:35AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 01:48:31PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > I have to say I'm not thrilled by the idea of juggling strings in
> > userspace and in kernel to set a flag for an inode...
>
> Nevermind the massive amounts of code that sit in the filesystem.
The reason for this patch was to address what Dave Chinner has called
"a shitty interface"[1]. Using bitfields that need to be coordinated
across file systems, when sometimes a bit assignment is validly a fs
specific thing, and then later becomes something that gets shared
across file systems.
[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems/80164/focus=80396
If we don't go about it this way, there are alternatives: we could
create new ioctls (or a new syscall) as we start running out of bits
used by FS_IOC_[GS]ETFLAGS. We can create new ioctls for bits which
are intended for fs-specific flags, which then later get promoted to
the new syscall when some functionality starts to get shared accross
other file systems (probably with a different bit assignment). This
is certainly less code, but it does mean more complexity outside of
the code when we try to coordinate new functionality across file
systems.
Personally, I don't mind dealing with codepoint assignments, but my
impression is that this is a minority viewpoint. Al and Linus have
historically hated bitfields, and Al in the past has spoken favorably
of Plan 9's approach of using strings for the system interface.
So while I have a preference towards using bitfields, as opposed to
using the xattr approach, what I'd really like is that we make a
decision, one way or another, about what's the best way to move
forward.
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-07 17:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-07 2:58 [RFC PATCH] fs: xattr-based FS_IOC_[GS]ETFLAGS interface Darrick J. Wong
2014-01-07 12:48 ` Jan Kara
2014-01-07 15:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-07 17:04 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2014-01-07 19:43 ` Darrick J. Wong
2014-01-07 19:59 ` Chris Mason
2014-01-07 22:02 ` Darrick J. Wong
2014-01-07 22:08 ` Chris Mason
2014-01-07 22:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-01-07 22:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2] fs: new FS_IOC_[GS]ETFLAGS2 interface Darrick J. Wong
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