From: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: tytso@mit.edu
Cc: "David Herrmann" <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] File Sealing & memfd_create()
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:39:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140320153948.7e420229@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140320153250.GC20618@thunk.org>
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:32:51 -0400
tytso@mit.edu wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 08:06:45PM +0100, David Herrmann wrote:
> >
> > This series introduces the concept of "file sealing". Sealing a file restricts
> > the set of allowed operations on the file in question. Multiple seals are
> > defined and each seal will cause a different set of operations to return EPERM
> > if it is set. The following seals are introduced:
> >
> > * SEAL_SHRINK: If set, the inode size cannot be reduced
> > * SEAL_GROW: If set, the inode size cannot be increased
> > * SEAL_WRITE: If set, the file content cannot be modified
>
> Looking at your patches, and what files you are modifying, you are
> enforcing this in the low-level file system.
>
> Why not make sealing an attribute of the "struct file", and enforce it
> at the VFS layer? That way all file system objects would have access
> to sealing interface, and for memfd_shmem, you can't get another
> struct file pointing at the object, the security properties would be
> identical.
Would it be more sensible to have a "sealer" which is a "device" which
you give a file handle too and it gives you back a sealable one.
So for the memfd case you'd create a private handle, pass it to the
sealer, and then pass the sealer handles to everyone else.
You have to implicitly trust the creator of the object has
- handed you the object you expect
- sealed it
so that appears no weaker but means you can meaningfully created sealed
versions of arbitary objects and if you want have non-sealed ones around
with it being up to the creator if they want for example to simply close
the unsealed one immediately afterwards.
Alan
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-19 19:06 [PATCH 0/6] File Sealing & memfd_create() David Herrmann
2014-03-19 19:06 ` [PATCH 1/6] fs: fix i_writecount on shmem and friends David Herrmann
2014-03-19 19:06 ` [PATCH 2/6] shm: add sealing API David Herrmann
2014-03-19 19:06 ` [PATCH 3/6] shm: add memfd_create() syscall David Herrmann
2014-03-20 8:47 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-03-20 9:01 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-03-20 11:29 ` David Herrmann
2014-03-20 11:50 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-03-20 19:22 ` John Stultz
2014-04-02 13:38 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-04-02 14:18 ` David Herrmann
2014-04-02 14:52 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-04-10 19:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-19 19:06 ` [PATCH 4/6] selftests: add memfd_create() + sealing tests David Herrmann
2014-03-19 19:06 ` [PATCH man-pages 5/6] fcntl.2: document SHMEM_SET/GET_SEALS commands David Herrmann
2014-03-19 19:06 ` [PATCH man-pages 6/6] memfd_create.2: add memfd_create() man-page David Herrmann
2014-03-20 2:55 ` [PATCH 0/6] File Sealing & memfd_create() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-03-20 3:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-20 8:07 ` David Herrmann
2014-03-20 14:41 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-20 15:12 ` David Herrmann
2014-03-20 15:26 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-20 15:32 ` tytso
2014-03-20 15:39 ` One Thousand Gnomes [this message]
2014-03-20 15:48 ` David Herrmann
2014-03-20 16:38 ` tytso
2014-04-10 19:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-10 20:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-10 20:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-10 20:49 ` David Herrmann
2014-04-10 21:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-10 22:57 ` David Herrmann
2014-04-10 23:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-10 23:16 ` David Herrmann
2014-04-10 23:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-20 15:03 ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-17 9:48 ` Florian Weimer
2014-06-17 16:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-10 14:45 ` Colin Walters
2014-04-10 19:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-10 19:45 ` Colin Walters
2014-04-11 6:09 ` Alex Elsayed
2014-04-08 13:00 ` Florian Weimer
2014-04-09 21:31 ` David Herrmann
2014-04-22 9:10 ` Florian Weimer
2014-04-22 11:55 ` David Herrmann
2014-04-22 12:44 ` Florian Weimer
2014-04-22 12:55 ` David Herrmann
2014-04-10 19:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
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