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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
	Ganesha NFS List <nfs-ganesha-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"Stefan (metze) Metzmacher" <metze@samba.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 16:22:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140421202219.GH26358@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140421151629.009cdd66@ipyr.poochiereds.net>

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 03:16:29PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:48:29 -0400
> Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 02:32:38PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > > Fair enough. Assuming we kept "file-description locks" as a name, what
> > > > > would you propose as new macro names?
> > > > 
> > > > I assume you meant, "assume we kept the term 'file-private locks'..."
> > > > In that case, at least make the constants something like
> > > > 
> > > > F_FP_SETLK
> > > > F_FP_SETLKW
> > > > F_FP_GETLK
> > > > 
> > > > so that they are not confused with the traditional constants.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheer,
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Actually no, I was asking how Rich would name the constants if we use
> > > the name "file-description locks" (as per the patch I posted this
> > > morning), since his objection was the use if *_FD_* names.
> > > 
> > > I would assume that if we stick with "file-private locks" as the name,
> > > then we'll still change the constants to a form like *_FP_*.
> > > 
> > > Also, to be clear...Frank is correct that the name "file-private" came
> > > from allowing the locks to be "private" to a particular open file
> > > description. Though I agree that it's a crappy name at best...
> > 
> > As I mentioned in a reply to Michael just now, I think FP is bad
> > because the whole problem is that legacy fcntl locks are associated
> > with the underlying file rather than the open file description (open
> > instance). So open-private (OP) might be a better choice than
> > file-private.
> 
> Is "open-private" or "open-file-private" really any better than
> "file-private" ? They're all names that only a mother could love and
> I'm not sure any of them are really any clearer than the others. Also:

Yes, much better. File-private expresses the current broken semantics
of fcntl locks: being associated with files. The whole point of the
new locks is NOT to be associated with files but with open file
descriptions.

Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-21 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-21 13:45 [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 14:02 ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 14:23   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 16:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-21 16:42       ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 17:03       ` [Nfs-ganesha-devel] " Frank Filz
2014-04-21 18:20       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 16:10     ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 16:45       ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 18:01         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-21 18:43           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:18         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:32           ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 18:48             ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 19:16               ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 20:22                 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2014-04-21 18:32       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-21 18:39           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 18:46         ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 19:39           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 19:55             ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-21 21:15               ` Stefan (metze) Metzmacher
2014-04-22  4:54                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-27  4:51                   ` NeilBrown
2014-04-27  9:14                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-27  9:16                     ` flock() and NFS [Was: Re: [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks] Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                       ` <535CCAD2.4060304-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-27 10:04                         ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                           ` <20140427200431.426c98d1-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-27 11:11                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                               ` <CAKgNAkgv5NqDRUNu0XtSABqmctd7=rpMMEYhhDQNzPssZuU5bA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-27 21:28                                 ` NeilBrown
2014-04-29  9:07                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-29  9:24                                     ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                                       ` <20140429192458.641ebf1d-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29  9:53                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                           ` <535F76A4.4090208-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 11:34                                             ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-29 12:20                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-28 10:23                     ` [PATCH] locks: rename file-private locks to file-description locks Jeff Layton
2014-04-28 10:46                       ` NeilBrown
2014-04-21 18:48         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-21 18:51           ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 19:04             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-21 19:06               ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-21 20:10                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 20:20               ` Rich Felker
2014-04-21 14:25 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-21 16:05 ` Stefan (metze) Metzmacher

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