From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Linux-FSDevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/19] mm: filemap: Avoid unnecessary barries and waitqueue lookups in unlock_page fastpath
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 13:24:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140513202448.GR18164@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140513185742.GD12123@redhat.com>
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 08:57:42PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 05/13, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 05:44:35PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah, yes, so I'll defer to Oleg and Linus to explain that one. As per the
> > > name: smp_mb__before_spinlock() should of course imply a full barrier.
> >
> > How about if I queue a name change to smp_wmb__before_spinlock()?
>
> I agree, this is more accurate, simply because it describes what it
> actually does.
>
> But just in case, as for try_to_wake_up() it does not actually need
> wmb() between "CONDITION = T" and "task->state = RUNNING". It would
> be fine if these 2 STORE's are re-ordered, we can rely on rq->lock.
>
> What it actually needs is a barrier between "CONDITION = T" and
> "task->state & state" check. But since we do not have a store-load
> barrier, wmb() was added to ensure that "CONDITION = T" can't leak
> into the critical section.
>
> But it seems that set_tlb_flush_pending() already assumes that it
> acts as wmb(), so probably smp_wmb__before_spinlock() is fine.
Except that when I go to make the change, I find the following in
the documentation:
Memory operations issued before the ACQUIRE may be completed after
the ACQUIRE operation has completed. An smp_mb__before_spinlock(),
combined with a following ACQUIRE, orders prior loads against
subsequent loads and stores and also orders prior stores against
subsequent stores. Note that this is weaker than smp_mb()! The
smp_mb__before_spinlock() primitive is free on many architectures.
Which means that either the documentation is wrong or the implementation
is. Yes, smp_wmb() has the semantics called out above on many platforms,
but not on Alpha or ARM.
So, as you say, set_tlb_flush_pending() only relies on smp_wmb().
The comment in try_to_wake_up() seems to be assuming a full memory
barrier. The comment in __schedule() also seems to be relying on
a full memory barrier (prior write against subsequent read). Yow!
So maybe barrier() on TSO systems like x86 and mainframe and stronger
barriers on other systems, depending on what their lock acquisition
looks like?
Or am I misinterpreting try_to_wake_up() and __schedule()?
Thanx, Paul
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2014-05-13 9:45 [PATCH 00/19] Misc page alloc, shmem, mark_page_accessed and page_waitqueue optimisations v3r33 Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 01/19] mm: page_alloc: Do not update zlc unless the zlc is active Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 02/19] mm: page_alloc: Do not treat a zone that cannot be used for dirty pages as "full" Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 03/19] jump_label: Expose the reference count Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 04/19] mm: page_alloc: Use jump labels to avoid checking number_of_cpusets Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 10:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-13 12:28 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 05/19] mm: page_alloc: Calculate classzone_idx once from the zonelist ref Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-14 6:32 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-14 20:29 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 06/19] mm: page_alloc: Only check the zone id check if pages are buddies Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 07/19] mm: page_alloc: Only check the alloc flags and gfp_mask for dirty once Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 08/19] mm: page_alloc: Take the ALLOC_NO_WATERMARK check out of the fast path Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 09/19] mm: page_alloc: Use word-based accesses for get/set pageblock bitmaps Mel Gorman
2014-05-22 9:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22 18:23 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-22 18:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 10/19] mm: page_alloc: Reduce number of times page_to_pfn is called Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 13:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13 14:09 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 11/19] mm: page_alloc: Lookup pageblock migratetype with IRQs enabled during free Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 13:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13 14:23 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 12/19] mm: page_alloc: Use unsigned int for order in more places Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 13/19] mm: page_alloc: Convert hot/cold parameter and immediate callers to bool Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 14/19] mm: shmem: Avoid atomic operation during shmem_getpage_gfp Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 15/19] mm: Do not use atomic operations when releasing pages Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 16/19] mm: Do not use unnecessary atomic operations when adding pages to the LRU Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 17/19] fs: buffer: Do not use unnecessary atomic operations when discarding buffers Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-13 12:50 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 13:49 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-13 14:30 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-13 14:46 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 13:50 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-13 22:29 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-14 6:12 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 18/19] mm: Non-atomically mark page accessed during page cache allocation where possible Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 14:29 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-20 15:49 ` [PATCH] mm: non-atomically mark page accessed during page cache allocation where possible -fix Mel Gorman
2014-05-20 19:34 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-21 12:09 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-21 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-22 0:07 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-22 5:35 ` Prabhakar Lad
2014-05-13 9:45 ` [PATCH 19/19] mm: filemap: Avoid unnecessary barries and waitqueue lookups in unlock_page fastpath Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 12:53 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 14:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-13 15:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-05-13 15:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-13 16:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-05-13 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-13 20:24 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-05-14 14:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-13 18:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-13 18:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-13 18:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-13 18:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-05-13 19:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-13 20:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-05-14 16:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-14 16:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-16 13:51 ` [PATCH 0/1] ptrace: task_clear_jobctl_trapping()->wake_up_bit() needs mb() Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-16 13:51 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-21 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-21 19:19 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-21 19:18 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Andrew Morton
2014-05-14 19:29 ` [PATCH 19/19] mm: filemap: Avoid unnecessary barries and waitqueue lookups in unlock_page fastpath Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-14 20:53 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-15 10:48 ` [PATCH] mm: filemap: Avoid unnecessary barries and waitqueue lookups in unlock_page fastpath v4 Mel Gorman
2014-05-15 13:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-15 13:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-15 15:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-15 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-15 16:18 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-15 15:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-05-15 21:24 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-21 12:15 ` [PATCH] mm: filemap: Avoid unnecessary barries and waitqueue lookups in unlock_page fastpath v5 Mel Gorman
2014-05-21 13:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-21 15:33 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-21 16:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-21 21:26 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-21 21:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-21 21:50 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-22 0:07 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-22 7:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-22 10:40 ` [PATCH] mm: filemap: Avoid unnecessary barriers and waitqueue lookups in unlock_page fastpath v7 Mel Gorman
2014-05-22 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-22 13:00 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-22 14:40 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-22 15:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-22 15:36 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-22 16:58 ` [PATCH] mm: filemap: Avoid unnecessary barriers and waitqueue lookups in unlock_page fastpath v8 Mel Gorman
2014-05-22 6:45 ` [PATCH] mm: filemap: Avoid unnecessary barries and waitqueue lookups in unlock_page fastpath v5 Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-22 8:46 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-22 17:47 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-22 19:53 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-21 23:35 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-13 16:52 ` [PATCH 19/19] mm: filemap: Avoid unnecessary barries and waitqueue lookups in unlock_page fastpath Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-14 7:31 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-19 8:57 ` [PATCH] mm: Avoid unnecessary atomic operations during end_page_writeback Mel Gorman
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