* Separate mailing list for xfstests @ 2014-05-14 13:20 Lukáš Czerner 2014-05-14 14:52 ` Eric Sandeen 2014-05-14 21:46 ` Dave Chinner 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Lukáš Czerner @ 2014-05-14 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: dchinner; +Cc: xfs, linux-fsdevel, linux-ext4 Hi Dave, I am wondering whether you're open to the idea of creating separate mailing list for xfstests. It is no longer xfs specific project and even though you're still a maintainer of the project, other fs folks are definitely interested in the development process, but not everyone might be interested in receiving everything from the xfs@oss.sgi.com list. To speak for myself I would like to help with review of xfstests patches as well, but I rarely go through my xfs folder unfortunately. linux-fsdevel might seem as a good candidate for it, but still I think that it deserves a separate ML to point people to. What do you think ? Thanks! -Lukas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Separate mailing list for xfstests 2014-05-14 13:20 Separate mailing list for xfstests Lukáš Czerner @ 2014-05-14 14:52 ` Eric Sandeen 2014-05-14 15:02 ` Chris Mason 2014-05-14 21:46 ` Dave Chinner 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Eric Sandeen @ 2014-05-14 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lukáš Czerner, dchinner; +Cc: linux-fsdevel, linux-ext4, xfs On 5/14/14, 8:20 AM, Lukáš Czerner wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I am wondering whether you're open to the idea of creating separate > mailing list for xfstests. It is no longer xfs specific project and > even though you're still a maintainer of the project, other fs folks > are definitely interested in the development process, but not > everyone might be interested in receiving everything from the > xfs@oss.sgi.com list. > > To speak for myself I would like to help with review of xfstests > patches as well, but I rarely go through my xfs folder > unfortunately. > > linux-fsdevel might seem as a good candidate for it, but still I > think that it deserves a separate ML to point people to. > > What do you think ? That sounds pretty reasonable to me. We've always encouraged submissions to cc: the other relevant lists (i.e. linux-ext4 if it's an ext4-specific patch) and would probably still encourage that, but even from the other angle (keeping i.e. ext4-specific and btrfs-specific patches off the xfs list) this sounds like a good idea. -Eric > Thanks! > -Lukas _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@oss.sgi.com http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Separate mailing list for xfstests 2014-05-14 14:52 ` Eric Sandeen @ 2014-05-14 15:02 ` Chris Mason 2014-05-14 16:04 ` tytso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Chris Mason @ 2014-05-14 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eric Sandeen, Lukáš Czerner, dchinner Cc: linux-fsdevel, linux-ext4, xfs On 05/14/2014 10:52 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 5/14/14, 8:20 AM, Lukáš Czerner wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> I am wondering whether you're open to the idea of creating separate >> mailing list for xfstests. It is no longer xfs specific project and >> even though you're still a maintainer of the project, other fs folks >> are definitely interested in the development process, but not >> everyone might be interested in receiving everything from the >> xfs@oss.sgi.com list. >> >> To speak for myself I would like to help with review of xfstests >> patches as well, but I rarely go through my xfs folder >> unfortunately. >> >> linux-fsdevel might seem as a good candidate for it, but still I >> think that it deserves a separate ML to point people to. >> >> What do you think ? > > That sounds pretty reasonable to me. We've always encouraged submissions > to cc: the other relevant lists (i.e. linux-ext4 if it's an ext4-specific > patch) and would probably still encourage that, but even from the other > angle (keeping i.e. ext4-specific and btrfs-specific patches off the > xfs list) this sounds like a good idea. +1 here. -chris _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@oss.sgi.com http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Separate mailing list for xfstests 2014-05-14 15:02 ` Chris Mason @ 2014-05-14 16:04 ` tytso 2014-05-14 16:50 ` Tyler Hicks 2014-05-14 21:35 ` Dave Chinner 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: tytso @ 2014-05-14 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chris Mason Cc: Eric Sandeen, Lukáš Czerner, dchinner, xfs, linux-fsdevel, linux-ext4 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:02:47AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > >> linux-fsdevel might seem as a good candidate for it, but still I > >> think that it deserves a separate ML to point people to. I'm personally in favor of using linux-fsdevel since it might encourage more fs developers who aren't using xfstests yet to start using it. For example, we started investigating using xfstests to test unionfs, and pretty quickly found problems. (I suspect the same problem exists in AUFS, BTW, but I've been focusing on unionfs because it's simpler and less scary.) The patches to enable the use of xfstests to test unionfs are still pretty rough, but hopefully we'll get those sent to Dave once they are cleaned up a bit. - Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Separate mailing list for xfstests 2014-05-14 16:04 ` tytso @ 2014-05-14 16:50 ` Tyler Hicks 2014-05-14 21:35 ` Dave Chinner 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Tyler Hicks @ 2014-05-14 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tytso Cc: Chris Mason, Eric Sandeen, Lukáš Czerner, dchinner, xfs, linux-fsdevel, linux-ext4 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1152 bytes --] On 2014-05-14 16:04:47, tytso@mit.edu wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:02:47AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > > >> linux-fsdevel might seem as a good candidate for it, but still I > > >> think that it deserves a separate ML to point people to. > > I'm personally in favor of using linux-fsdevel since it might > encourage more fs developers who aren't using xfstests yet to start > using it. > > For example, we started investigating using xfstests to test unionfs, > and pretty quickly found problems. (I suspect the same problem exists > in AUFS, BTW, but I've been focusing on unionfs because it's simpler > and less scary.) The patches to enable the use of xfstests to test > unionfs are still pretty rough, but hopefully we'll get those sent to > Dave once they are cleaned up a bit. Oh, that sounds interesting. I haven't seen these patches, but I expect they would be pretty easy for me to extend for testing eCryptfs. That has been on my todo list for a long time but I haven't spent much time working on eCryptfs lately. BTW, you can use this email as a supporting data point for your first paragraph. :) Tyler [-- Attachment #2: Digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 819 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Separate mailing list for xfstests 2014-05-14 16:04 ` tytso 2014-05-14 16:50 ` Tyler Hicks @ 2014-05-14 21:35 ` Dave Chinner 2014-05-15 10:08 ` Lukáš Czerner 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Dave Chinner @ 2014-05-14 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tytso Cc: Eric Sandeen, xfs, Chris Mason, dchinner, linux-fsdevel, Lukáš Czerner, linux-ext4 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 04:04:47PM +0000, tytso@mit.edu wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:02:47AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > > >> linux-fsdevel might seem as a good candidate for it, but still I > > >> think that it deserves a separate ML to point people to. > > I'm personally in favor of using linux-fsdevel since it might > encourage more fs developers who aren't using xfstests yet to start > using it. I'd prefer a separate mailing list - I don't really like the idea of burying general lists in large amounts of specific topic-related traffic. That way lies lkml - a dumping ground for everything that has no stopic-related lists and that results in a very low signal to noise ratio. Comparitively speaking, -fsdevel has a high SNR, so we should try to keep it that way. ;) That said, I can see the value in sending update/release announcements to -fsdevel, but I'd prefer to keep all the xfstests traffic separate. A separate list makes things like archive searching and patch tracking much simpler.... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@fromorbit.com _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@oss.sgi.com http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Separate mailing list for xfstests 2014-05-14 21:35 ` Dave Chinner @ 2014-05-15 10:08 ` Lukáš Czerner 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Lukáš Czerner @ 2014-05-15 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Chinner Cc: tytso, Chris Mason, Eric Sandeen, dchinner, xfs, linux-fsdevel, linux-ext4 [-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 1636 bytes --] On Thu, 15 May 2014, Dave Chinner wrote: > Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 07:35:29 +1000 > From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> > To: tytso@mit.edu > Cc: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>, > Lukáš Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>, dchinner@redhat.com, xfs@oss.sgi.com, > linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: Separate mailing list for xfstests > > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 04:04:47PM +0000, tytso@mit.edu wrote: > > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:02:47AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > > > >> linux-fsdevel might seem as a good candidate for it, but still I > > > >> think that it deserves a separate ML to point people to. > > > > I'm personally in favor of using linux-fsdevel since it might > > encourage more fs developers who aren't using xfstests yet to start > > using it. > > I'd prefer a separate mailing list - I don't really like the idea of > burying general lists in large amounts of specific topic-related > traffic. That way lies lkml - a dumping ground for everything that > has no stopic-related lists and that results in a very low signal to > noise ratio. Comparitively speaking, -fsdevel has a high SNR, so we > should try to keep it that way. ;) > > That said, I can see the value in sending update/release > announcements to -fsdevel, but I'd prefer to keep all the xfstests > traffic separate. A separate list makes things like archive > searching and patch tracking much simpler.... I agree, having a separate list and sending out update/release announcements to fsdevel sounds like the best solution to me. Thanks! -Lukas > > Cheers, > > Dave. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Separate mailing list for xfstests 2014-05-14 13:20 Separate mailing list for xfstests Lukáš Czerner 2014-05-14 14:52 ` Eric Sandeen @ 2014-05-14 21:46 ` Dave Chinner 2014-05-15 10:09 ` Lukáš Czerner 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Dave Chinner @ 2014-05-14 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lukáš Czerner; +Cc: dchinner, xfs, linux-fsdevel, linux-ext4 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 03:20:24PM +0200, Lukáš Czerner wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I am wondering whether you're open to the idea of creating separate > mailing list for xfstests. It is no longer xfs specific project and > even though you're still a maintainer of the project, other fs folks > are definitely interested in the development process, but not > everyone might be interested in receiving everything from the > xfs@oss.sgi.com list. > > To speak for myself I would like to help with review of xfstests > patches as well, but I rarely go through my xfs folder > unfortunately. > > linux-fsdevel might seem as a good candidate for it, but still I > think that it deserves a separate ML to point people to. Makes sense to me. fstests@vger.kernel.org? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@fromorbit.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Separate mailing list for xfstests 2014-05-14 21:46 ` Dave Chinner @ 2014-05-15 10:09 ` Lukáš Czerner 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Lukáš Czerner @ 2014-05-15 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Chinner; +Cc: linux-fsdevel, linux-ext4, xfs, dchinner [-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 1223 bytes --] On Thu, 15 May 2014, Dave Chinner wrote: > Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 07:46:01 +1000 > From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> > To: Lukáš Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com> > Cc: dchinner@redhat.com, xfs@oss.sgi.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, > linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: Separate mailing list for xfstests > > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 03:20:24PM +0200, Lukáš Czerner wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > > > I am wondering whether you're open to the idea of creating separate > > mailing list for xfstests. It is no longer xfs specific project and > > even though you're still a maintainer of the project, other fs folks > > are definitely interested in the development process, but not > > everyone might be interested in receiving everything from the > > xfs@oss.sgi.com list. > > > > To speak for myself I would like to help with review of xfstests > > patches as well, but I rarely go through my xfs folder > > unfortunately. > > > > linux-fsdevel might seem as a good candidate for it, but still I > > think that it deserves a separate ML to point people to. > > Makes sense to me. fstests@vger.kernel.org? That's perfect. Thanks! -Lukas > > Cheers, > > Dave. > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 121 bytes --] _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@oss.sgi.com http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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