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From: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ben Greear <greearb-my8/4N5VtI7c+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
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	<linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Killing process in D state on mount to dead NFS server. (when process is in fsync)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 14:47:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140801124734.GB5431@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140801075053.2120cb33-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>

On Fri 01-08-14 07:50:53, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:20:07 -0700 Ben Greear <greearb-my8/4N5VtI7c+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
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> > On 07/31/2014 01:42 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 11:00:35 -0700 Ben Greear <greearb-my8/4N5VtI7c+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > >> So, this has been asked all over the interweb for years and years, but the best answer I can find is to reboot the system or create a fake NFS server
> > >> somewhere with the same IP as the gone-away NFS server.
> > >> 
> > >> The problem is:
> > >> 
> > >> I have some mounts to an NFS server that no longer exists (crashed/powered down).
> > >> 
> > >> I have some processes stuck trying to write to files open on these mounts.
> > >> 
> > >> I want to kill the process and unmount.
> > >> 
> > >> umount -l will make the mount go a way, sort of.  But process is still hung. umount -f complains: umount2:  Device or resource busy umount.nfs: /mnt/foo:
> > >> device is busy
> > >> 
> > >> kill -9 does not work on process.
> > > 
> > > Kill -1 should work (since about 2.6.25 or so).
> > 
> > That is -[ONE], right?  Assuming so, it did not work for me.
> 
> No, it was "-9" .... sorry, I really shouldn't be let out without my proof
> reader.
> 
> However the 'stack' is sufficient to see what is going on.
> 
> The problem is that it is blocked inside the "VM" well away from NFS and
> there is no way for NFS to say "give up and go home".
> 
> I'd suggest that is a bug.   I cannot see any justification for fsync to not
> be killable.
> It wouldn't be too hard to create a patch to make it so.
> It would be a little harder to examine all call paths and create a
> convincing case that the patch was safe.
> It might be herculean task to convince others that it was the right thing
> to do.... so let's start with that one.
> 
> Hi Linux-mm and fs-devel people.  What do people think of making "fsync" and
> variants "KILLABLE" ??
  Sounds useful to me and I don't see how it could break some
application...

								Honza

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SUSE Labs, CR
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-01 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20140801064217.01852788@notabene.brown>
     [not found]   ` <53DAB307.2000206@candelatech.com>
2014-07-31 21:50     ` Killing process in D state on mount to dead NFS server. (when process is in fsync) NeilBrown
     [not found]       ` <20140801075053.2120cb33-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-01 12:47         ` Jan Kara [this message]
2014-08-02  1:21         ` Jeff Layton
2014-08-02  1:50           ` Roger Heflin
2014-08-02  2:07             ` Jeff Layton
2014-08-02  2:55           ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-02  3:19             ` NeilBrown
2014-08-02  3:44               ` Trond Myklebust

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