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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] NFS: avoid deadlocks with loop-back mounted NFS filesystems.
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:37:57 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140917093757.472c8cf2@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54182F8B.8010302@Netapp.com>

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On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:39:39 -0400 Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>
wrote:

> On 09/16/2014 01:31 AM, NeilBrown wrote:
> > Support for loop-back mounted NFS filesystems is useful when NFS is
> > used to access shared storage in a high-availability cluster.
> >
> > If the node running the NFS server fails, some other node can mount the
> > filesystem and start providing NFS service.  If that node already had
> > the filesystem NFS mounted, it will now have it loop-back mounted.
> >
> > nfsd can suffer a deadlock when allocating memory and entering direct
> > reclaim.
> > While direct reclaim does not write to the NFS filesystem it can send
> > and wait for a COMMIT through nfs_release_page().
> 
> Is there anything that can be done on the nfsd side to prevent the deadlocks?
> 

I went down that path first and it didn't work out.
Setting PF_FSTRANS in nfsd (when the request comes from localhost) and then
arranging the __GFP_FS is cleared when that flag is set overcomes a number of
possible deadlock sources, but not all.

There are a number of situations where nfsd is waiting on some other thread
(which doesn't have PF_FSTRANS set) and that thread tries to reclaim memory
and hits nfs_release_page().
It was a long and complex patch set, and nobody liked it.
And the common thread was always that it always blocked in nfs_release_page().
So it seemed to make sense to just remove that blockage.

Thanks,
NeilBrown

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-16 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-16  5:31 [PATCH 0/4] Remove possible deadlocks in nfs_release_page() NeilBrown
2014-09-16  5:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] SCHED: add some "wait..on_bit...timeout()" interfaces NeilBrown
2014-09-18 14:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-23  2:10     ` NeilBrown
2014-09-23 21:30       ` Andrew Morton
2014-09-16  5:31 ` [PATCH 3/4] NFS: avoid deadlocks with loop-back mounted NFS filesystems NeilBrown
2014-09-16 12:39   ` Anna Schumaker
2014-09-16 23:37     ` NeilBrown [this message]
2014-09-16  5:31 ` [PATCH 2/4] MM: export page_wakeup functions NeilBrown
2014-09-16  5:31 ` [PATCH 4/4] NFS/SUNRPC: Remove other deadlock-avoidance mechanisms in nfs_release_page() NeilBrown
2014-09-16 22:04   ` Trond Myklebust
2014-09-17  1:10     ` NeilBrown
2014-09-17  1:32       ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]         ` <CAHQdGtST5nEE-Wh99vKLNPsOHc_pSgau4om7dWr+GhfLauFBnA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-17  3:12           ` NeilBrown
     [not found] ` <20140916051911.22257.24658.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-16 11:47   ` [PATCH 0/4] Remove possible deadlocks " Jeff Layton
     [not found]     ` <20140916074741.1de870c5-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-16 23:41       ` NeilBrown
2014-09-17  0:19         ` Jeff Layton

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