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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: "Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)" <Elliott@hp.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	Milosz Tanski <milosz@adfin.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-aio@kvack.org" <linux-aio@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Volker Lendecke <Volker.Lendecke@sernet.de>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:21:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140919112147.GA4639@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94D0CD8314A33A4D9D801C0FE68B402958C81D56@G9W0745.americas.hpqcorp.net>

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:36:46PM +0000, Elliott, Robert (Server Storage) wrote:
> That sounds like the proposed WRITE SCATTERED/READ GATHERED 
> commands for SCSI (where are related to, but not necessarily
> tied to, atomic writes).  We discussed them a bit at 
> LSF-MM 2013 - see http://lwn.net/Articles/548116/.

In the same way a preadx/pwritex could use but would not require an
O_ATOMIC.  What's the status of those in t10?  Last I heard
READ GATHERED was out and they were only looking into WRITE SCATTERED?

Without the atomic WRITE SCATTERED use case adding the syscalls seems
rather pointless, and I'd really avoid blocking nice software only
features like the per-I/O nonblock flag (and the similarly trivial
per-I/O sync option I have a prototype for) on it.

Speaking of easy flags:  while a nonblock flags for writes wouldn't
be anywhere near as easy as the one for reads would there be sufficient
interested in it to bother implementing it?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-19 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-15 20:20 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:20 ` [PATCH 1/7] Prepare for adding a new readv/writev with user flags Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:28   ` Al Viro
2014-09-15 21:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 21:44       ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:20 ` [PATCH 2/7] Define new syscalls readv2,preadv2,writev2,pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 19:20   ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:54     ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 21:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-17 15:43   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 16:05     ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 16:59       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 17:24         ` Zach Brown
2014-09-15 20:20 ` [PATCH 3/7] Export new vector IO (with flags) to userland Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:21 ` [PATCH 4/7] O_NONBLOCK flag for readv2/preadv2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 19:19   ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:44     ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 19:53       ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-15 20:21 ` [PATCH 5/7] documentation updates Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 20:21 ` [PATCH 6/7] move flags enforcement to vfs_preadv/vfs_pwritev Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 21:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 21:45     ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:22 ` [PATCH 7/7] check for O_NONBLOCK in all read_iter instances Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-16 19:27   ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:45     ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 21:42       ` Dave Chinner
2014-09-17 12:24         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 13:47           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 13:56             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 15:33               ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 15:49                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 15:52               ` Zach Brown
2014-09-16 21:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-16 21:24       ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-15 20:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 21:33 ` Andreas Dilger
2014-09-15 22:13   ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 22:36   ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-09-16 18:24     ` Zach Brown
2014-09-19 11:21     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2014-09-22 15:48       ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-22 16:32         ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 16:42           ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-22 17:02             ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 16:25       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-09-15 21:58 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-15 22:27   ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 13:44     ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-19 11:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-16 19:30 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 20:34   ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 20:49     ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-17 14:49 ` [RFC 1/2] aio: async readahead Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 15:26   ` [RFC 2/2] ext4: async readpage for indirect style inodes Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-19 11:26   ` [RFC 1/2] aio: async readahead Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 16:01     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 22:20 ` [RFC v2 0/5] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20   ` [RFC v2 1/5] Prepare for adding a new readv/writev with user flags Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20   ` [RFC v2 2/5] Define new syscalls readv2,preadv2,writev2,pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-18 18:48     ` Darrick J. Wong
2014-09-19 10:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-20  0:19         ` Darrick J. Wong
2014-09-17 22:20   ` [RFC v2 3/5] Export new vector IO (with flags) to userland Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20   ` [RFC v2 4/5] O_NONBLOCK flag for readv2/preadv2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-19 11:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 11:59       ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 17:12     ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-17 22:20   ` [RFC v2 5/5] Check for O_NONBLOCK in all read_iter instances Milosz Tanski
2014-09-19 11:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 14:42   ` [RFC v2 0/5] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Jonathan Corbet
2014-09-19 16:13     ` Volker Lendecke
2014-09-19 17:19     ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-19 17:33     ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 14:12       ` Jonathan Corbet
2014-09-22 14:24         ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-22 14:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-22 14:30         ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` [RFC v3 0/4] vfs: " Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46   ` [RFC v3 1/4] vfs: Prepare for adding a new preadv/pwritev with user flags Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46   ` [RFC v3 2/4] vfs: Define new syscalls preadv2,pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46   ` [RFC v3 3/4] vfs: Export new vector IO syscalls (with flags) to userland Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46   ` [RFC v3 4/4] vfs: RWF_NONBLOCK flag for preadv2 Milosz Tanski
     [not found]   ` <cover.1411594644.git.milosz-B5zB6C1i6pkAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25  4:06     ` [RFC v3 0/4] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Michael Kerrisk
2014-09-25 11:16       ` Jan Kara
2014-09-25 15:48       ` Milosz Tanski
2014-10-08  2:53   ` Milosz Tanski

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