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From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	fuse-devel <fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-Fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] fuse: Add support for mounts from pid/user namespaces
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:53:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140925185311.GA39447@ubuntu-hedt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140925184403.GB28101@ubuntu-hedt>

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 01:44:03PM -0500, Seth Forshee wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:05:36AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> writes:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Eric W. Biederman
> > > <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> So in summary I see:
> > >> - Low utility in being able to manipulate files with bad uids.
> > >> - Bad uids are mostly likely malicious action.
> > >> - make_bad_inode is trivial to analyze.
> > >> - No impediments to change if I am wrong.
> > >>
> > >> So unless there is a compelling case, right now I would recommend
> > >> returning -EIO initially.   That allows us to concentrate on the easier
> > >> parts of this and it leaves the changes only in fuse.
> > >
> > > The problem with marking the inode bad is that it will mark it bad for
> > > all instances of this filesystem.  Including ones which are in a
> > > namespace where the UIDs make perfect sense.
> > 
> > There are two cases:
> > app <-> fuse
> > fuse <-> server
> > 
> > I proposed mark_bad_inode for "userspace server -> fuse".
> > Where we have one superblock and one server so and one namespace that
> > they decide to talk in when the filesystem was mounted.
> > 
> > I think bad_inode is a reasonable response when the filesystem server
> > starts spewing non-sense.
> > 
> > > So that really doesn't look like a good solution.
> > >
> > > Doing the check in inode_permission() might be too heavyweight, but
> > > it's still the only one that looks sane.
> > 
> > For the "app <-> fuse" case we already have checks in inode_permision
> > that are kuid based that handle that case.  We use kuids not for
> > performance (although there is a small advatnage) but to much more to
> > keep the logic simple and maintainable.
> > 
> > 
> > For the "app -> fuse" case in .setattr we do need a check to verify
> > that the uid and gid are valid.  However that check was added with
> > the basic user namespace support and fuse current returns -EOVERFLOW
> > when that happens.
> 
> Where does this happen? I haven't managed to track it down yet.

I guess it must be the one in chown_common()? Except that returns
EINVAL, not EOVERFLOW.

> 
> I've also added a check in fuse for this. If a uid/gid passed to
> fuse_setattr doesn't map into the namespace it will return -EINVAL.
> Sounds like maybe it should return -EOVERFLOW instead.
> 
> Thanks,
> Seth
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-25 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-02 15:44 [PATCH v2 0/3] fuse: Add support for mounts from pid/user namespaces Seth Forshee
2014-09-02 15:44 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] vfs: Check for invalid i_uid in may_follow_link() Seth Forshee
2014-09-05 17:05   ` Serge Hallyn
2014-09-05 19:00     ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-05 19:23       ` Serge Hallyn
2014-09-02 15:44 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] fuse: Translate pids passed to userspace into pid namespaces Seth Forshee
2014-09-05 17:10   ` Serge Hallyn
2014-09-02 15:44 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] fuse: Add support for mounts from user namespaces Seth Forshee
2014-09-05 16:48   ` Serge Hallyn
2014-09-05 17:36     ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-05 19:25       ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found] ` <1409672696-15847-1-git-send-email-seth.forshee-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05 20:40   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] fuse: Add support for mounts from pid/user namespaces Seth Forshee
2014-09-10 12:35   ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-10 16:21     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-09-10 16:42       ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-11 18:10         ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-23 22:29           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-24 13:29             ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-24 17:10               ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-25 15:04                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-09-25 16:21                   ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-25 18:05                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-25 18:44                     ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-25 18:53                       ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2014-09-25 19:14                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-25 19:48                         ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-27  1:41                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-27  4:24                             ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-29 19:34                               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                 ` <87tx3qdxuz.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-30 16:25                                   ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-05 16:48                                     ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-06 16:00                                       ` Serge Hallyn
2014-10-06 16:31                                         ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-06 16:36                                           ` Serge Hallyn
2014-10-06 16:37                                         ` Michael j Theall
2014-09-23 16:07 ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-09-23 16:26   ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-23 17:03     ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-09-23 17:33       ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-23 21:46       ` Eric W. Biederman

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