From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Michael j Theall <mtheall@us.ibm.com>
Cc: fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
"Serge H. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCH v4 4/5] fuse: Support privileged xattrs only with a mount option
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 22:59:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141014205955.GA10908@ubuntu-mba51> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878ukis9oh.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 01:01:02PM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Michael j Theall <mtheall@us.ibm.com> writes:
>
> > Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> wrote on 10/14/2014 09:25:55 AM:
> >
> >> From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
> >> To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
> >> Cc: fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, "Serge H. Hallyn"
> >> <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Seth
> >> Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>, "Eric W. Biederman"
> >> <ebiederm@xmission.com>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
> >> Date: 10/14/2014 09:27 AM
> >> Subject: [fuse-devel] [PATCH v4 4/5] fuse: Support privileged xattrs
> >> only with a mount option
> >>
> >> Allowing unprivileged users to provide arbitrary xattrs via fuse
> >> mounts bypasses the normal restrictions on setting xattrs. Such
> >> mounts should be restricted to reading and writing xattrs in the
> >> user.* namespace.
> >>
> >
> > Can you explain how the normal restrictions on setting xattrs are
> > bypassed?
>
> If the fuse server is not run by root. Which is a large part of the
> point of fuse.
So the server could for example return trusted.* xattrs which were not
set by a privileged user.
> > My filesystem still needs security.* and system.*, and it looks like
> > xattr_permission already prevents non-privileged users from accessing
> > trusted.*
>
> If the filesystem is mounted with nosuid (typical of a non-privileged
> mount of fuse) then the security.* attributes are ignored.
That I wasn't aware of. In fact I still haven't found where this
restriction is implemented.
Nonetheless, a userns mount could be done without nosuid (though that
mount will also be unaccessible outside of that namespace).
> >> It's difficult though to tell whether a mount is being performed
> >> on behalf of an unprivileged user since fuse mounts are ususally
> >> done via a suid root helper. Thus a new mount option,
> >> privileged_xattrs, is added to indicated that xattrs from other
> >> namespaces are allowed. This option can only be supplied by
> >> system-wide root; supplying the option as an unprivileged user
> >> will cause the mount to fail.
> >
> > I can't say I'm convinced that this is the right direction to head.
>
> With respect to defaults we could keep the current default if you
> have the global CAP_SYS_ADMIN privilege when the mount takes place
> and then avoid breaking anything.
Except that unprivileged mounts are normally done by a suid root helper,
which is why I've required both global CAP_SYS_ADMIN and a mount option
to get the current default behavior.
Thanks,
Seth
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-14 20:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-14 14:25 [PATCH v4 0/5] fuse: Add support for mounts from pid/user namespaces Seth Forshee
[not found] ` <1413296756-25071-1-git-send-email-seth.forshee-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-14 14:25 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] fuse: Add support for pid namespaces Seth Forshee
2014-10-14 14:25 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] fuse: Restrict allow_other to uids already controlled by the user Seth Forshee
2014-10-15 14:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <543E8BB3.6040701-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-15 15:11 ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-14 14:25 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] fuse: Support privileged xattrs only with a mount option Seth Forshee
2014-10-14 18:12 ` [fuse-devel] " Michael j Theall
2014-10-14 20:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-14 20:59 ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2014-10-14 21:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-14 21:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-14 21:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-15 7:39 ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-15 14:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-21 21:21 ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-21 21:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-21 21:34 ` Michael j Theall
2014-10-21 21:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-22 4:58 ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-23 18:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-23 21:24 ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-14 14:25 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Seth Forshee
2014-10-15 14:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-15 15:05 ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-15 17:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-15 22:59 ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-15 23:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWuc8x60A9v9xSL1Jbk0ZgiXsL_o20wc0PyPDgO9g6BRg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-15 23:24 ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-14 14:25 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] fuse: Allow user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
2014-10-15 14:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-15 15:20 ` Seth Forshee
2014-10-15 23:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-15 23:07 ` Seth Forshee
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