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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Linux Filesystem Development List <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux btrfs Developers List <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	XFS Developers <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH-v4 6/7] ext4: add support for a lazytime mount option
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:32:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141127133227.GA11872@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141127132752.GF30152@quack.suse.cz>

On Thu 27-11-14 14:27:52, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Thu 27-11-14 10:35:37, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 04:10:44PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > > On Nov 26, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 05:23:56AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > > >> Add an optimization for the MS_LAZYTIME mount option so that we will
> > > >> opportunistically write out any inodes with the I_DIRTY_TIME flag set
> > > >> in a particular inode table block when we need to update some inode
> > > >> in that inode table block anyway.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Also add some temporary code so that we can set the lazytime mount
> > > >> option without needing a modified /sbin/mount program which can set
> > > >> MS_LAZYTIME.  We can eventually make this go away once util-linux has
> > > >> added support.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Google-Bug-Id: 18297052
> > > >> 
> > > >> Signed-off-by: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
> > > >> ---
> > > >> fs/ext4/inode.c             | 49 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> > > >> fs/ext4/super.c             |  9 +++++++++
> > > >> include/trace/events/ext4.h | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> 3 files changed, 85 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > >> 
> > > >> diff --git a/fs/ext4/inode.c b/fs/ext4/inode.c
> > > >> index 5653fa4..8308c82 100644
> > > >> --- a/fs/ext4/inode.c
> > > >> +++ b/fs/ext4/inode.c
> > > >> @@ -4140,6 +4140,51 @@ static int ext4_inode_blocks_set(handle_t *handle,
> > > >> }
> > > >> 
> > > >> /*
> > > >> + * Opportunistically update the other time fields for other inodes in
> > > >> + * the same inode table block.
> > > >> + */
> > > >> +static void ext4_update_other_inodes_time(struct super_block *sb,
> > > >> +					  unsigned long orig_ino, char *buf)
> > > >> +{
> > > >> +	struct ext4_inode_info	*ei;
> > > >> +	struct ext4_inode	*raw_inode;
> > > >> +	unsigned long		ino;
> > > >> +	struct inode		*inode;
> > > >> +	int		i, inodes_per_block = EXT4_SB(sb)->s_inodes_per_block;
> > > >> +	int		inode_size = EXT4_INODE_SIZE(sb);
> > > >> +
> > > >> +	ino = orig_ino & ~(inodes_per_block - 1);
> > > >> +	for (i = 0; i < inodes_per_block; i++, ino++, buf += inode_size) {
> > > >> +		if (ino == orig_ino)
> > > >> +			continue;
> > > >> +		inode = find_active_inode_nowait(sb, ino);
> > > >> +		if (!inode ||
> > > >> +		    (inode->i_state & I_DIRTY_TIME) == 0 ||
> > > >> +		    !spin_trylock(&inode->i_lock)) {
> > > >> +			iput(inode);
> > > >> +			continue;
> > > >> +		}
> > > >> +		inode->i_state &= ~I_DIRTY_TIME;
> > > >> +		inode->i_ts_dirty_day = 0;
> > > >> +		spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
> > > >> +		inode_requeue_dirtytime(inode);
> > > >> +
> > > >> +		ei = EXT4_I(inode);
> > > >> +		raw_inode = (struct ext4_inode *) buf;
> > > >> +
> > > >> +		spin_lock(&ei->i_raw_lock);
> > > >> +		EXT4_INODE_SET_XTIME(i_ctime, inode, raw_inode);
> > > >> +		EXT4_INODE_SET_XTIME(i_mtime, inode, raw_inode);
> > > >> +		EXT4_INODE_SET_XTIME(i_atime, inode, raw_inode);
> > > >> +		ext4_inode_csum_set(inode, raw_inode, ei);
> > > >> +		spin_unlock(&ei->i_raw_lock);
> > > >> +		trace_ext4_other_inode_update_time(inode, orig_ino);
> > > >> +		iput(inode);
> > > >> +	}
> > > >> +}
> > > > 
> > > > Am I right in that this now does unlogged timestamp updates of
> > > > inodes? What happens when that buffer gets overwritten by log
> > > > recover after a crash? The timestamp updates get lost?
> > > > 
> > > > FYI, XFS has had all sorts of nasty log recovery corner cases
> > > > caused by log recovery overwriting non-logged inode updates like
> > > > this. In the past few years we've removed every single non-logged
> > > > inode update "optimisation" so that all changes (including timestamps)
> > > > are transactional so inode state on disk not matching what log
> > > > recovery wrote to disk for all the other inode metadata...
> > > > 
> > > > Optimistic unlogged inode updates are a slippery slope, and history
> > > > tells me that it doesn't lead to a nice place....
> > > 
> > > Since ext4/jbd2 is logging the whole block, unlike XFS which is doing
> > > logical journaling, this isn't an unlogged update.  It is just taking
> > > advantage of the fact that the whole block is going to be logged and
> > > written to the disk anyway.
> > 
> > Urk - that's worse, isn't it? i.e the code above calls iput() from
> > within a current transaction context?  What happens if that drops
> > the last reference to the inode and it gets evicted due to racing
> > with an unlink? Won't that try to start another transaction to free
> > the inode (i.e. through ext4_evict_inode())?
>   Yeah, the patch looks buggy (and racy wrt concurrent updates of time
> stamps as well). I think if we want to do this optimization, we would need
> a function like "clear inode dirty bits for this range of inode numbers".
> That is doable atomically within VFS and although it looks somewhat ugly,
> the performance
  Sorry, I sent this too early (did send instead of postpone). So the patch
looks buggy because of iput() but it isn't racy wrt time updates as I
checked now. So it would be enough to move calling of this outside of the
transaction and start new handle for each inode.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-27 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-26 10:23 [PATCH-v4 0/7] add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 1/7] vfs: split update_time() into update_time() and write_time() Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 19:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 12:34     ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 15:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 14:41     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 15:28       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 15:33       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 16:49         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 20:27           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-01  9:28             ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-12-01 15:04               ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-01 17:18                 ` David Sterba
2014-12-02  9:20                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-12-02 15:09                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 2/7] vfs: add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 13:14   ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 20:19     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 12:41       ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 23:00     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28  5:36       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 16:24       ` Jan Kara
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 3/7] vfs: don't let the dirty time inodes get more than a day stale Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 4/7] vfs: add lazytime tracepoints for better debugging Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 5/7] vfs: add find_active_inode_nowait() function Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 6/7] ext4: add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 19:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-26 22:48   ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-26 23:10     ` Andreas Dilger
2014-11-26 23:35       ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-27 13:27         ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 13:32           ` Jan Kara [this message]
2014-11-27 15:25             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 15:41               ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 20:13                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 7/7] btrfs: add an is_readonly() so btrfs can use common code for update_time() Theodore Ts'o

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