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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Linux Filesystem Development List <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux btrfs Developers List <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	XFS Developers <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH-v4 2/7] vfs: add support for a lazytime mount option
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 00:36:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141128053656.GI14091@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141127230016.GH14091@thunk.org>

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 06:00:16PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> Well.... it's not quite enough.  The problem is that for ext3 and
> ext4, the actual work of writing the inode happens in dirty_inode(),
> not in write_inode().  Which means we need to do something like this.
> 
> I'm not entirely sure whether or not this is too ugly to live;
> personally, I think my hack of handling this in update_time() might be
> preferable....

.... and this doesn't work because it breaks ext3/ext4's transaction
handling, since the writeback thread could be racing against some
transactional update of the inode.  So I don't see a way of making the
queue_io / move_expired_inodes approach to the 24 hour time being
tractable.

So the alternatives that I can see at this point is either give up on
the 24 hour timeout, or we fall back to handling this in
update_time().

					- Ted

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-28  5:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-26 10:23 [PATCH-v4 0/7] add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 1/7] vfs: split update_time() into update_time() and write_time() Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 19:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 12:34     ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 15:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 14:41     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 15:28       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 15:33       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 16:49         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-27 20:27           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-01  9:28             ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-12-01 15:04               ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-01 17:18                 ` David Sterba
2014-12-02  9:20                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-12-02 15:09                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 2/7] vfs: add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 13:14   ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 20:19     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 12:41       ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 23:00     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28  5:36       ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2014-11-28 16:24       ` Jan Kara
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 3/7] vfs: don't let the dirty time inodes get more than a day stale Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 4/7] vfs: add lazytime tracepoints for better debugging Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 5/7] vfs: add find_active_inode_nowait() function Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 6/7] ext4: add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 19:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-26 22:48   ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-26 23:10     ` Andreas Dilger
2014-11-26 23:35       ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-27 13:27         ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 13:32           ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 15:25             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-27 15:41               ` Jan Kara
2014-11-27 20:13                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 10:23 ` [PATCH-v4 7/7] btrfs: add an is_readonly() so btrfs can use common code for update_time() Theodore Ts'o

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