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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCHES] iov_iter.c rewrite
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 14:15:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141208191551.GA7525@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwow9hVqNVGp7gjnnu4=A+J8vw1i22W4e7+1r1-215cHg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:01:41AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
 > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov
 > <kirill@shutemov.name> wrote:
 > >
 > > trinity triggers it for me in few minutes. I will try find out more once
 > > get some time.
 > 
 > You run trinity as *root*?
 > 
 > You're a brave man. Stupid, but brave ;)
 > 
 > I guess you're running it in a VM, but still.. Doing random system
 > calls as root sounds like a bad bad idea.

I've flip-flopped on this a few times.  I used to be solidly in the same
position as your statement, but after seeing the things the secure-boot
crowd want to lock down, there are a ton of places in the kernel that
would need additional root-proofing to avoid scribbling over kernel
memory.

In short though, yeah, expect fireworks right now, especially on bare-metal.

At the same time, just to increase coverage testing of a lot of
root-required functionality (like various network sockets that can't be
opened as a regular user) I added a --drop-privs mode to trinity a while
ago, so after the socket creation, it can't do anything _too_ crazy.

	Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-08 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-04 20:20 [RFC][PATCHES] iov_iter.c rewrite Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/13] iov_iter.c: macros for iterating over iov_iter Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/13] iov_iter.c: iterate_and_advance Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/13] iov_iter.c: convert iov_iter_npages() to iterate_all_kinds Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/13] iov_iter.c: convert iov_iter_get_pages() " Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/13] iov_iter.c: convert iov_iter_get_pages_alloc() " Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/13] iov_iter.c: convert iov_iter_zero() to iterate_and_advance Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/13] iov_iter.c: get rid of bvec_copy_page_{to,from}_iter() Al Viro
2014-12-05 12:28   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/13] iov_iter.c: convert copy_from_iter() to iterate_and_advance Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/13] iov_iter.c: convert copy_to_iter() " Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/13] iov_iter.c: handle ITER_KVEC directly Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/13] csum_and_copy_..._iter() Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/13] new helper: iov_iter_kvec() Al Viro
2014-12-04 20:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/13] copy_from_iter_nocache() Al Viro
2014-12-08 16:46 ` [RFC][PATCHES] iov_iter.c rewrite Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-12-08 17:58   ` Al Viro
2014-12-08 18:08     ` Al Viro
2014-12-08 18:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-12-08 18:20         ` Al Viro
2014-12-08 18:37           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-12-08 18:46             ` Al Viro
2014-12-08 18:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-12-08 19:28                 ` Al Viro
2014-12-08 19:48                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-12-09  1:56                   ` Al Viro
2014-12-09  2:21                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-04-01  2:33                 ` [RFC] iov_iter_get_pages() semantics Al Viro
2015-04-01 16:45                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-01 18:08                     ` Al Viro
2015-04-01 18:15                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-01 19:23                         ` Al Viro
2015-04-01 18:26                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-01 18:34                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-01 20:15                           ` Al Viro
2015-04-01 21:57                             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-01 19:50                         ` Al Viro
2014-12-08 18:56     ` [RFC][PATCHES] iov_iter.c rewrite Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-12-08 19:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-12-08 19:15         ` Dave Jones [this message]
2014-12-08 19:23         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-12-08 22:14           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-08 22:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-12-08 22:31               ` Dave Jones
2014-12-08 18:07   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-12-08 18:14     ` Al Viro
2014-12-08 18:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-12-08 18:35         ` Al Viro

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