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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Namjae Jeon <namjae.jeon@samsung.com>
Cc: "'Jan Kara'" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"'Dave Chinner'" <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"'Theodore Ts'o'" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"'Alexander Viro'" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"'Brian Foster'" <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	"'Dmitry Monakhov'" <dmonakhov@openvz.org>,
	"'Lukáš Czerner'" <lczerner@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"'Ashish Sangwan'" <a.sangwan@samsung.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] fs: file freeze support
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:57:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150116105712.GF25884@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <003f01d03158$60c9def0$225d9cd0$@samsung.com>

  Hello,

On Fri 16-01-15 15:48:04, Namjae Jeon wrote:
> > > +int file_write_unfreeze(struct inode *inode)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct super_block *sb = inode->i_sb;
> > > +
> > > +	if (!S_ISREG(inode->i_mode))
> > > +		return -EINVAL;
> > > +
> > > +	spin_lock(&inode->i_lock);
> > > +
> > > +	if (!(inode->i_state & I_WRITE_FREEZED)) {
> > > +		spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
> > > +		return -EINVAL;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	inode->i_state &= ~I_WRITE_FREEZED;
> > > +	smp_wmb();
> > > +	wake_up(&sb->s_writers.wait_unfrozen);
> > > +	spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
> > > +	return 0;
> > > +}
> > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL(file_write_unfreeze);
> >   So I was looking at the implementation and I have a few comments:
> > 1) The trick with freezing superblock looks nice but I'm somewhat worried
> > that if we wanted to heavily use per-inode freezing to defrag the whole
> > filesystem it may be too slow to freeze the whole fs, mark one inode as
> > frozen and then unfreeze the fs. But I guess we'll see that once have some
> > reasonably working implementation.
> Dmitry has given a good idea to avoid multiple freeze fs and unfreeze fs
> calls.
> 
> ioctl(sb,FIFREEZE)
> while (f = pop(files_list))
>   ioctl(f,FS_IOC_FWFREEZE)
> ioctl(sb,FITHAW)
> 
> In file_write_freeze, we could first check if the fs is already frozen,
> if yes than we can directly set inode write freeze state after taking
> relevant lock to prevent fs_thaw while the inode state is being set.
  Well, doing fs-wide freezing from userspace makes sense as Dmitry pointed
out. We can then just fail FS_IOC_FWFREEZE with error when the whole fs isn't
frozen. I'm just somewhat worried whether the fs-wide freezing won't be too
fragile. E.g. consider a situation when you are running a defrag program
which is freezing and unfreezing the filesystem and then some background
work kicks which will want to snapshot the filesystem so it will freeze &
unfreeze the fs as well. Now depending on how exactly defrag and snapshot
race one of the FIFREEZE ioctls will return EBUSY and the process
(hopefully gracefully) fails.

This isn't a new situation - if you ran two snapshots at once, you'd see
the same failure. But the more fs-wide freezing gets used in different
places the stranger and less expected failure you'll see...

> > 2) The tests you are currently doing are racy. If
> > things happen as:
> >   CPU1					CPU2
> > inode_start_write()
> > 					file_write_freeze()
> > sb_start_pagefault()
> > Do modifications.
> > 
> > Then you have a CPU modifying a file while file_write_freeze() has
> > succeeded so it should be frozen.
> > 
> > If you swap inode_start_write() with sb_start_pagefault() the above race
> > doesn't happen but userspace program has to be really careful not to hit a
> > deadlock. E.g. if you tried to freeze two inodes the following could happen:
> >   CPU1					CPU2
> > 					file_write_freeze(inode1)
> > fault on inode1:
> > sb_start_pagefault()
> > inode_start_write() -> blocks
> > 					file_write_freeze(inode2)
> > 					  blocks in freeze_super()
> > 
> > So I don't think this is a good scheme for inode freezing...
> To solve this race, we can fold inode_start_write with sb_start_write and use
> similar appraoch of __sb_start_write.
> How about the below scheme ?
> 
> void inode_start_write(struct inode *inode)
> {
> 	struct super_block *sb = inode->i_sb;
> 
> retry:
> 
> 	if (unlikely(inode->i_state & I_WRITE_FREEZED)) {
> 		DEFINE_WAIT(wait);
> 
> 		prepare_to_wait(&sb->s_writers.wait_unfrozen, &wait,
> 			TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
> 		schedule();
> 		finish_wait(&sb->s_writers.wait_unfrozen, &wait);
> 
> 		goto retry;
> 	}
> 
> 	sb_start_write(sb);
> 
> 	/* check if file_write_freeze race with us */
> 	if (unlikely(inode->i_state & I_WRITE_FREEZED) {
> 		sb_end_write(sb);
> 		goto retry;
> 	}
> }
  Yes, this should work. You'll need a similar wrapper for page faults but
that's easy enough.

								Honza

-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-16 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-15 11:36 [RFC PATCH] fs: file freeze support Namjae Jeon
2015-01-15 15:19 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2015-01-16  5:54   ` Namjae Jeon
2015-01-15 16:17 ` Jan Kara
2015-01-16  6:48   ` Namjae Jeon
2015-01-16 10:57     ` Jan Kara [this message]
2015-01-19 12:34       ` Namjae Jeon
2015-01-18 23:33 ` Dave Chinner
2015-01-19 13:07   ` Namjae Jeon
2015-01-20 11:21     ` Jan Kara
2015-01-20 22:22       ` Dave Chinner
2015-01-21  0:15       ` Namjae Jeon

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