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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Thiago Macieira <thiago.macieira@intel.com>
Cc: josh@joshtriplett.org, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] clone4: Introduce new CLONE_FD flag to get task exit notification via fd
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 19:54:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150314185424.GA6813@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28025621.k7WkrfHd4d@tjmaciei-mobl4>

On 03/14, Thiago Macieira wrote:
>
> On Saturday 14 March 2015 15:32:35 Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > It is not clear to me what do_wait() should do with ->autoreap child, even
> > ignoring ptrace.
> >
> > Just suppose that real_parent has a single "autoreap" child. Should
> > wait(NULL) hanf then?
>
> It should ignore the child that is set to autoreap. wait(NULL) should return -
> ECHILD, indicating there are no children waiting to be reaped.

I disagree. I won't really argue now, because I think that this needs
a separate discussion. And imo "autoreap" should come as a separate feature.

I think that wait(NULL) should hang like it hangs even if the parent ignores
SIGCHLD. But in this case the parent should be woken up when the "autoreap"
child exits.

If nothing else. Suppose that the parent does waitid(WEXITED|WSTOPPED).
Should WSTOPPED work? I think it should.

At the same time, if we add autoreap then probably it also makes sense to add
WEXITIED_UNLESS_AUTOREAP.

In short: this all certainly needs more discussion, but (afaics) this patch
is wrong in any case.



In fact I have some concerns about file descriptor from clone, it doesn't look
like a "right" interface to me. But I will not comment this part until at least
I read 0/4 ;)

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-14 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-13  1:40 [PATCH 0/6] CLONE_FD: Task exit notification via file descriptor Josh Triplett
2015-03-13  1:40 ` [PATCH 1/6] clone: Support passing tls argument via C rather than pt_regs magic Josh Triplett
2015-03-13  1:40 ` [PATCH 3/6] Introduce a new clone4 syscall with more flag bits and extensible arguments Josh Triplett
2015-03-13  1:40 ` [PATCH 4/6] signal: Factor out a helper function to process task_struct exit_code Josh Triplett
     [not found] ` <cover.1426180120.git.josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13  1:40   ` [PATCH 2/6] x86: Opt into HAVE_COPY_THREAD_TLS, for both 32-bit and 64-bit Josh Triplett
     [not found]     ` <cf79b9f0c40314e6bfda7c634e378015bd7ba037.1426180120.git.josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 22:01       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-13 22:31         ` josh
2015-03-13 22:38           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrWspvNcEYxwbo1+ifXSj7Qj7YdcRgmNvZ1RaBrUAK12Zw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 22:43               ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-03-13 22:45                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrW3kJSVz4ffVC6YdB+ELukhOHNgPFKZSziMq5nn_Nq3Zg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 23:01                     ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-03-13  1:40   ` [PATCH 5/6] fs: Make alloc_fd non-private Josh Triplett
2015-03-13  2:07   ` [PATCH 0/6] CLONE_FD: Task exit notification via file descriptor Thiago Macieira
2015-03-13 16:05   ` David Drysdale
2015-03-13 19:42     ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-13 21:16       ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-13 21:44         ` josh
2015-03-13 21:33       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrXH+Ui1XqVZjFB=8vDpJLCYeVf+XNUPGWNfwDsNKi_nKg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 21:45           ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-03-13 21:51             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]               ` <CALCETrWwkdWkNCsrcSAn+7f9SJCuYA-TV9=AygWMhXCC9Njp9Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14  1:11                 ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-14 19:03                   ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-14 19:29                     ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-15 10:18                       ` David Drysdale
2015-03-15 10:59                         ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-15  8:55       ` David Drysdale
2015-03-13  1:41 ` [PATCH 6/6] clone4: Introduce new CLONE_FD flag to get task exit notification via fd Josh Triplett
2015-03-13 16:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-13 19:57     ` josh
2015-03-13 21:34       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-13 22:20         ` josh
2015-03-13 22:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrVRqgsbpi9pPRwy42cuXiDzyPgWRJmfSRSQM7eGFfsZYA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 22:34               ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-03-13 22:38                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-14 14:14       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20150314141414.GA11062-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 14:32           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-14 18:38             ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-14 18:54               ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20150314185424.GA6813-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 22:03                   ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 22:26                     ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-14 19:01               ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 19:18                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                   ` <20150314191836.GA8416-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 19:47                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                       ` <20150314194721.GA9654-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 20:14                         ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 20:30                           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                             ` <20150314203029.GA11656-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 22:14                               ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 20:03                     ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 20:20                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-14 22:09         ` Josh Triplett
     [not found]   ` <9c39c576e1d9a9912b4aec54d833a73a84d2f592.1426180120.git.josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 14:35     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]       ` <20150314143558.GB12086-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 19:15         ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 19:24           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20150314192456.GA8707-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 19:48               ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-13  1:41 ` [PATCH] clone4.2: New manpage documenting clone4(2) Josh Triplett

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