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From: Josh Triplett <josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Thiago Macieira
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	Al Viro <viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
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	Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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	Michael Kerrisk
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] clone4: Introduce new CLONE_FD flag to get task exit notification via fd
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:14:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150314221417.GK22130@thin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150314203029.GA11656-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 09:30:29PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 03/14, Josh Triplett wrote:
> >
> > What I was proposing was that a task that isn't yet dead, but that is
> > going to be autoreaped, is not eligible for waiting either.  All the
> > various wait* familiy of system calls should pretend it doesn't exist at
> > all, because returning an autoreaped task from a wait* call introduces a
> > race condition if the parent tries to *do* anything with the returned
> > PID.  If you launch a process with CLONE_FD, you need to manage it
> > exclusively with that fd, not with the wait* family of system calls.
> >
> > That also implies that the child-stop and child-continued mechanisms
> > (do_notify_parent_cldstop, WSTOPPED, WCONTINUED) should ignore the task
> > too.  In the future there could be a flag to clone4 that lets you get
> > stop and continue notifications through the file descriptor.
> 
> So far I strongly disagree, and I think that "autoreap" feature should
> not depend on CLONE_FD.

After reading your other mail and thinking about this, I agree that the
two can be separated; see my othermail for the details.

> Plus we should also discuss the reparenting. Ok, let me leave this
> discussion until I read 0/4 at least.

I think you can safely wait for v2 of the last patch, though the first
four patches should be almost completely identical in v2.

- Josh Triplett

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-14 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-13  1:40 [PATCH 0/6] CLONE_FD: Task exit notification via file descriptor Josh Triplett
2015-03-13  1:40 ` [PATCH 1/6] clone: Support passing tls argument via C rather than pt_regs magic Josh Triplett
     [not found] ` <cover.1426180120.git.josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13  1:40   ` [PATCH 2/6] x86: Opt into HAVE_COPY_THREAD_TLS, for both 32-bit and 64-bit Josh Triplett
     [not found]     ` <cf79b9f0c40314e6bfda7c634e378015bd7ba037.1426180120.git.josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 22:01       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-13 22:31         ` josh
2015-03-13 22:38           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrWspvNcEYxwbo1+ifXSj7Qj7YdcRgmNvZ1RaBrUAK12Zw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 22:43               ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-03-13 22:45                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrW3kJSVz4ffVC6YdB+ELukhOHNgPFKZSziMq5nn_Nq3Zg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 23:01                     ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-03-13  1:40   ` [PATCH 5/6] fs: Make alloc_fd non-private Josh Triplett
2015-03-13  2:07   ` [PATCH 0/6] CLONE_FD: Task exit notification via file descriptor Thiago Macieira
2015-03-13 16:05   ` David Drysdale
2015-03-13 19:42     ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-13 21:16       ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-13 21:44         ` josh
2015-03-13 21:33       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrXH+Ui1XqVZjFB=8vDpJLCYeVf+XNUPGWNfwDsNKi_nKg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 21:45           ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-03-13 21:51             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]               ` <CALCETrWwkdWkNCsrcSAn+7f9SJCuYA-TV9=AygWMhXCC9Njp9Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14  1:11                 ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-14 19:03                   ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-14 19:29                     ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-15 10:18                       ` David Drysdale
2015-03-15 10:59                         ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-15  8:55       ` David Drysdale
2015-03-13  1:40 ` [PATCH 3/6] Introduce a new clone4 syscall with more flag bits and extensible arguments Josh Triplett
2015-03-13  1:40 ` [PATCH 4/6] signal: Factor out a helper function to process task_struct exit_code Josh Triplett
2015-03-13  1:41 ` [PATCH 6/6] clone4: Introduce new CLONE_FD flag to get task exit notification via fd Josh Triplett
2015-03-13 16:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-13 19:57     ` josh
2015-03-13 21:34       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-13 22:20         ` josh
2015-03-13 22:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrVRqgsbpi9pPRwy42cuXiDzyPgWRJmfSRSQM7eGFfsZYA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 22:34               ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-03-13 22:38                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-14 14:14       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20150314141414.GA11062-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 14:32           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-14 18:38             ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-14 18:54               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20150314185424.GA6813-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 22:03                   ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 22:26                     ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-14 19:01               ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 19:18                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                   ` <20150314191836.GA8416-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 19:47                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                       ` <20150314194721.GA9654-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 20:14                         ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 20:30                           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                             ` <20150314203029.GA11656-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 22:14                               ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2015-03-14 20:03                     ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 20:20                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-14 22:09         ` Josh Triplett
     [not found]   ` <9c39c576e1d9a9912b4aec54d833a73a84d2f592.1426180120.git.josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 14:35     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]       ` <20150314143558.GB12086-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 19:15         ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-14 19:24           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20150314192456.GA8707-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 19:48               ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-13  1:41 ` [PATCH] clone4.2: New manpage documenting clone4(2) Josh Triplett

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