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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-cachefs@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] fscache/cachefiles versus btrfs
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:42:21 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150410104221.0d156c74@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150409235234.GJ13731@dastard>

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On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:52:34 +1000 Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 10:23:08AM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> > NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
> > 
> > >  Is there a better way?  Could a better way be created?  Maybe
> > >  SEEK_DATA_RELIABLE ??
> > 
> > fiemap() maybe?
> 
> fiemap is not reliable for mapping holes - it returns extent info,
> not whether there is data in a range. i.e. there can be data over a
> hole (e.g. delayed allocation) and fiemap will return it as a hole.
> cp made this mistake back when fiemap was first introduced,
> resulting in corrupt file copies.

I assumed from the doco that FIEMAP_EXTENT_DELALLOC would get returned in
this case.  I guess not?

> 
> SEEK_HOLE/SEEK_DATA is what you want, as they are page cache
> coherent, not extent based operations. And, really if you need it to
> really be able to find real holes, then a superblock flag might be a
> better way of marking filesystems with the required capability.

btrfs seems to use the same underlying functionality for both fiemap and
SEEK_HOLE/SEEK_DATA...

But yes: a new fs_flags flag is probably the go.

Thanks,
NeilBrown

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-10  0:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-09  7:49 [PATCH/RFC] fscache/cachefiles versus btrfs NeilBrown
2015-04-09  9:23 ` David Howells
2015-04-09 23:52   ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-10  0:42     ` NeilBrown [this message]
2015-04-10  1:08       ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-10  1:24   ` NeilBrown
2015-04-20  4:49     ` NeilBrown
2015-04-20  9:27     ` David Howells
2015-04-10 13:28   ` David Howells
2015-04-13 17:30     ` Christoph Hellwig

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