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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/10] evacuate struct page from the block layer, introduce __pfn_t
Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 21:53:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150507195313.GA23597@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150507194832.GB23511@gmail.com>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:

> > Is handling kernel pagefault on the vmemmap completely out of the 
> > picture ? So we would carveout a chunck of kernel address space 
> > for those pfn and use it for vmemmap and handle pagefault on it.
> 
> That's pretty clever. The page fault doesn't even have to do remote 
> TLB shootdown, because it only establishes mappings - so it's pretty 
> atomic, a bit like the minor vmalloc() area faults we are doing.
> 
> Some sort of LRA (least recently allocated) scheme could unmap the 
> area in chunks if it's beyond a certain size, to keep a limit on 
> size. Done from the same context and would use remote TLB shootdown.
> 
> The only limitation I can see is that such faults would have to be 
> able to sleep, to do the allocation. So pfn_to_page() could not be 
> used in arbitrary contexts.

So another complication would be that we cannot just unmap such pages 
when we want to recycle them, because the struct page in them might be 
in use - so all struct page uses would have to refcount the underlying 
page. We don't really do that today: code just looks up struct pages 
and assumes they never go away.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-07 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-06 20:04 [PATCH v2 00/10] evacuate struct page from the block layer, introduce __pfn_t Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:04 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] arch: introduce __pfn_t for persistent memory i/o Dan Williams
2015-05-07 14:55   ` Stephen Rothwell
2015-05-08  0:21     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] block: add helpers for accessing a bio_vec page Dan Williams
2015-05-08 15:59   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] block: convert .bv_page to .bv_pfn bio_vec Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] dma-mapping: allow archs to optionally specify a ->map_pfn() operation Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] scatterlist: use sg_phys() Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] scatterlist: support "page-less" (__pfn_t only) entries Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] x86: support dma_map_pfn() Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] x86: support kmap_atomic_pfn_t() for persistent memory Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:20   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] dax: convert to __pfn_t Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:05 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] block: base support for pfn i/o Dan Williams
2015-05-06 20:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] evacuate struct page from the block layer, introduce __pfn_t Al Viro
2015-05-06 22:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-06 23:47   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07  0:19     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-07  2:36       ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07  9:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 14:42           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 15:52             ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07 17:52               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 15:00         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-07 15:40           ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07 15:58             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-07 16:03               ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07 17:36                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 17:42                   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07 17:56                     ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 19:11                       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 19:36                         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-07 19:48                           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 19:53                             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-05-07 20:18                               ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-08  5:37                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-08  9:20                                   ` Al Viro
2015-05-08  9:26                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-08 10:00                                       ` Al Viro
2015-05-08 13:45                         ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-08 14:05                           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-08 14:40                             ` John Stoffel
2015-05-08 15:54                               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-08 16:28                                 ` Al Viro
2015-05-08 16:59                                 ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-09  1:14                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-09  3:02                                     ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-09  3:52                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-09 21:56                                       ` Dave Chinner
2015-05-09  8:45                                   ` "Directly mapped persistent memory page cache" Ingo Molnar
2015-05-09 15:51                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-10 10:07                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-09 18:24                                     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-10  9:46                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-10 17:29                                         ` Dan Williams
2015-05-11  8:25                                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-05-11  9:18                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-11 10:12                                         ` Zuckerman, Boris
2015-05-11 10:38                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-11 14:51                                             ` Jeff Moyer
2015-05-12  0:53                                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-05-12 14:47                                           ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-05  5:43                                             ` Dan Williams
2015-05-11 14:31                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-05-11 20:01                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-08 20:40                                 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] evacuate struct page from the block layer, introduce __pfn_t John Stoffel
2015-05-08 14:54                             ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-07 17:43                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-07 20:06                   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07 16:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-05-07 16:41         ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07 18:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 19:44             ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07 17:30         ` Jerome Glisse

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