From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
SELinux-NSA <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Initial support for user namespace owned mounts
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:25:17 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150730172517.GB131344@ubuntu-hedt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878u9xlgo8.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:05:27PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> writes:
>
> > On 7/28/2015 1:40 PM, Seth Forshee wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 05:05:17PM -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> >>>> This is what I currently think you want for user ns mounts:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. smk_root and smk_default are assigned the label of the backing
> >>>> device.
> >>>> 2. s_root is assigned the transmute property.
> >>>> 3. For existing files:
> >>>> a. Files with the same label as the backing device are accessible.
> >>>> b. Files with any other label are not accessible.
> >>> That's right. Accept correct data, reject anything that's not right.
> >>>
> >>>> If this is right, there are a couple lingering questions in my mind.
> >>>>
> >>>> First, what happens with files created in directories with the same
> >>>> label as the backing device but without the transmute property set? The
> >>>> inode for the new file will initially be labeled with smk_of_current(),
> >>>> but then during d_instantiate it will get smk_default and thus end up
> >>>> with the label we want. So that seems okay.
> >>> Yes.
> >>>
> >>>> The second is whether files with the SMACK64EXEC attribute is still a
> >>>> problem. It seems it is, for files with the same label as the backing
> >>>> store at least. I think we can simply skip the code that reads out this
> >>>> xattr and sets smk_task for user ns mounts, or else skip assigning the
> >>>> label to the new task in bprm_set_creds. The latter seems more
> >>>> consistent with the approach you've suggested for dealing with labels
> >>>> from disk.
> >>> Yes, I think that skipping the smk_fetch(XATTR_NAME_SMACKEXEC, ...) in
> >>> smack_d_instantiate for unprivileged mounts would do the trick.
> >>>
> >>>> So I guess all of that seems okay, though perhaps a bit restrictive
> >>>> given that the user who mounted the filesystem already has full access
> >>>> to the backing store.
> >>> In truth, there is no reason to expect that the "user" who did the
> >>> mount will ever have a Smack label that differs from the label of
> >>> the backing store. If what we've got here seems restrictive, it's
> >>> because you've got access from someone other than the "user".
> >>>
> >>>> Please let me know whether or not this matches up with what you are
> >>>> thinking, then I can procede with the implementation.
> >>> My current mindset is that, if you're going to allow unprivileged
> >>> mounts of user defined backing stores, this is as safe as we can
> >>> make it.
> >> All right, I've got a patch which I think does this, and I've managed to
> >> do some testing to confirm that it behaves like I expect. How does this
> >> look?
> >>
> >> What's missing is getting the label from the block device inode; as
> >> Stephen discovered the inode that I thought we could get the label from
> >> turned out to be the wrong one. Afaict we would need a new hook in order
> >> to do that, so for now I'm using the label of the proccess calling
> >> mount.
> >
> > That will be OK if the mount processing checks for write access to
> > the backing store. I haven't looked to see if it does. If it doesn't
> > the problems should be pretty obvious.
>
>
> do_new_mount
> vfs_kern_mount
> mount_fs
> ...
> mount_bdev
> blkdev_get_by_path(...,FMODE_READ| FMODE_WRITE | FMODE_EXCL,...)
> lookup_bdev
> kern_path
> filename_lookup
> path_lookupat
> lookup_last
> walk_component
> blkdev_get(...,mode,...)
> __blkdev_get(...,mode,...)
> devcgroup_inode_permission(bdev->bd_inode, perm)
>
> *scratches my head*
>
> It looks like we don't actually check the permissions on the block
> device. Tomoyo has a hack for it. nfsd does something. There is
> devcgroup silliness.
>
> But overall it looks like we depend on capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN).
>
> Seth I do believe we have found another area of the vfs we will need to
> short up before allowing unprivileged mounts of block device based
> filesystems.
>
> It looks like there are enough hacks someone with a clue coming through
> and making the code make more sense seems like a good idea anyway.
Yep, I just came to the same conclusion myself, and I also verified the
behavior emperically. That's definitely a problem. I'll get to work on
fixing that.
Seth
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-30 17:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-15 19:46 [PATCH 0/7] Initial support for user namespace owned mounts Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 1/7] fs: Add user namesapace member to struct super_block Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 2:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-05 21:03 ` Seth Forshee
2015-08-05 21:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-06 14:20 ` Seth Forshee
2015-08-06 14:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-08-06 15:44 ` Seth Forshee
2015-08-06 16:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-08-07 14:16 ` Seth Forshee
2015-08-07 14:32 ` Seth Forshee
2015-08-07 18:35 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-08-07 18:57 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 2/7] userns: Simpilify MNT_NODEV handling Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 3/7] fs: Ignore file caps in mounts from other user namespaces Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 21:48 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-15 21:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-15 22:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 1:14 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 1:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 13:06 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 1:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 4:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 4:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 5:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 5:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 5:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 13:13 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-17 0:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-29 16:04 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-29 16:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 4/7] fs: Treat foreign mounts as nosuid Seth Forshee
2015-07-17 6:46 ` Nikolay Borisov
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 5/7] security: Restrict security attribute updates for userns mounts Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 6/7] selinux: Ignore security labels on user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 13:23 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-22 16:02 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-22 16:14 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-22 20:25 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-22 20:40 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-23 13:57 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-23 14:39 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-23 15:36 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-23 16:23 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-24 15:11 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-30 15:57 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-30 16:24 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 7/7] smack: Don't use security labels for " Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 20:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-15 20:36 ` [PATCH 0/7] Initial support for user namespace owned mounts Casey Schaufler
2015-07-15 21:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-15 21:48 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 22:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 1:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 2:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 13:12 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-15 23:04 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-15 22:39 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 1:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 2:54 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 4:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-17 0:09 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-17 0:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-17 2:47 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-21 17:37 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-22 7:56 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-22 14:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-22 16:52 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-07-22 17:41 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-23 1:51 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-23 13:19 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-23 23:48 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-18 0:07 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-20 17:54 ` Colin Walters
2015-07-16 11:16 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-17 0:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-17 10:13 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-16 3:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 13:59 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 15:09 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 18:57 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 21:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 22:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 23:08 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 23:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 0:45 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-17 0:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 14:28 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-17 14:56 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-21 20:35 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-22 1:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-22 15:56 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-22 18:10 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-22 19:32 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-23 0:05 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-23 0:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-23 5:15 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-23 21:48 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-28 20:40 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-30 16:18 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-30 17:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-30 17:25 ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2015-07-30 17:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-17 13:21 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-17 17:14 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 15:59 ` Seth Forshee
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-30 4:24 Amir Goldstein
2015-07-30 13:55 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-30 14:47 ` Amir Goldstein
2015-07-30 15:33 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-30 15:52 ` Colin Walters
2015-07-30 16:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-30 13:57 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-07-30 15:09 ` Amir Goldstein
2015-07-31 8:11 Amir Goldstein
2015-07-31 19:56 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-08-01 17:01 ` Amir Goldstein
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