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From: Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Dominique Martinet <dominique.martinet@cea.fr>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: v4.2-rc dcache regression, probably 75a6f82a0d10
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:50:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150731205036.GA3752@nautica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1507311207160.11122@eggly.anvils>

Hugh Dickins wrote on Fri, Jul 31, 2015:
> It will indeed be weird and odd if it confirms that DCACHE_DISCONNECTED
> revert is good.  I agree that Dominique's 4bf46a272647 seems now more
> likely, if still unlikely; but that was included in v4.1, and I saw
> no problem with v4.1 once the rmap_walk() skip was fixed.

I think it could, actually, and that neither commits are actually bad --
just that they affect timing enough to raise an issue between d_delete
(I guess?) and link_path_walk (see last mail in other thread[1])

It's probably an old race that was very hard to hit because of cache
coherency.
Basically, before the wmb/rmb, the dentry was always updated closely to
its flags, so the other CPU would "usually" get both updates at the same
time; the barriers make it so the updates are split and it's possible to
get it, and would explain why I could pick 4bf46a2726 as "the one"


I'm not sure why the problem wouldn't arise on tmpfs though.

Hugh, could you try the reproducer I gave in the other thread[2] on both
filesystems maybe?
I need to let the thing run for a while, might need to tune params as
well. I was trying to fine tune cpu affinity with less threads but it's
not getting anywhere.

I'll also check if it's getting even easier to reproduce with
75a6f82a0d10 (or a recent kernel), who knows... How fast do you hit the
bug with the commit?


Thanks,
-- 
Dominique

[1] https://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=143835651005259&w=2
[2] https://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=143825706609188&w=2 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-31 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-31 17:46 v4.2-rc dcache regression, probably 75a6f82a0d10 Hugh Dickins
2015-07-31 17:59 ` Dominique Martinet
2015-07-31 18:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-31 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-31 19:42   ` Hugh Dickins
2015-07-31 20:50     ` Dominique Martinet [this message]
2015-07-31 22:52       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-01  0:20         ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-01  5:58           ` Dominique Martinet
2015-08-01  7:26         ` Al Viro
2015-08-01 10:19           ` Dominique Martinet
2015-08-01 10:50             ` Dominique Martinet
2015-08-01 16:09           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-01 17:09             ` Al Viro
2015-08-02  0:14             ` [git pull] vfs.git spurious ENOTDIR fix Al Viro
2015-08-02  0:23               ` Al Viro
2015-08-02  0:42                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-02  0:57                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-02  1:41                   ` Al Viro
2015-08-02  2:39                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-02  4:06                       ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-02  4:39                         ` Al Viro
2015-08-02  4:42                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-02 18:53                           ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-01  0:09       ` v4.2-rc dcache regression, probably 75a6f82a0d10 Hugh Dickins
2015-08-01  4:20     ` Hugh Dickins

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