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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
	Omar Sandoval <osandov@osandov.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH review 0/7] Bind mount escape fixes
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 00:29:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150816222929.GA13710@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87egj3moxm.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 06:51:33AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> It occurs to me that there is a fairly simple way we can emperically
> test to see how expensive calling is_subdir for every .. on a bind mount
> is in practice.
> 
> - Take my last patch
> - run a benchmark outside of a bind mount (perhaps a kernel compile).
> - run the same benchmark inside of a bind mount.
> 
> See if the performance differs.
> 
> I am going to try to find time to do this, but I am travelling for the
> next couple of days.
> 
> If someone who has a bit more time wants to try it and beats me to that
> would be great.
> 
> I think having some emperical numbers would be nice in this part of the
> conversation.

I took a bit of time to do something simpler though less scientific : I
just ran a kernel build under strace -c -f to get a rough idea of the
number of syscalls. It takes 2m23 without strace and 3m00 under strace.
7.2M syscalls were seen out of which only 3.2M were related to FS access
(mostly open(), fstat() and stat()), the rest is minor. That's 22k
syscalls per second, or 45 us between two syscalls. From this point I'm
having a hard time imagining that any extra tests in the code path would
have a significant impact to cause a measurable difference compared to
these 45us, especially since I'm counting all FS accesses (worst case)
and not just those referencing "..".

Just my two cents,
Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-16 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-02 21:42 [PATCH review 0/9] Call for testing and review of mount detach fixes Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <871tncuaf6.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-02 21:52   ` [PATCH review 1/9] mnt: Improve the umount_tree flags Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:45   ` [PATCH review 0/11 Call for testing and review of mount detach fixes (take 2) Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87mw5xq7lt.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-05 20:46       ` [PATCH review 01/11] mnt: Improve the umount_tree flags Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:46       ` [PATCH review 05/11] mnt: Delay removal from the mount hash Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:46     ` [PATCH review 02/11] mnt: Don't propagate umounts in __detach_mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:46     ` [PATCH review 03/11] mnt: In umount_tree reuse mnt_list instead of mnt_hash Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:46     ` [PATCH review 04/11] mnt: Add MNT_UMOUNT flag Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:46     ` [PATCH review 06/11] mnt: Factor out __detach_mnt from detach_mnt Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:46     ` [PATCH review 07/11] mnt: Simplify umount_tree Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:46     ` [PATCH review 08/11] mnt: Remove redundant NULL tests in namespace_unlock Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:46     ` [PATCH review 09/11] mnt: On an unmount propagate clearing of MNT_LOCKED Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:46     ` [PATCH review 10/11] mnt: Don't propagate unmounts to locked mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-05 20:46     ` [PATCH review 11/11] mnt: Honor MNT_LOCKED when detaching mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-07 18:43       ` Al Viro
     [not found]         ` <20150107184334.GZ22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-07 19:28           ` Al Viro
     [not found]             ` <20150107192807.GA22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-07 19:53               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-07 19:30         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]           ` <87h9w2gzht.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-07 20:52             ` Al Viro
     [not found]               ` <20150107205239.GB22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-07 21:51                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-08  0:22                   ` Al Viro
2015-01-08  3:02                     ` Al Viro
     [not found]                       ` <20150108030229.GD22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-08  3:11                         ` Al Viro
     [not found]                     ` <20150108002227.GC22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-08 22:32                       ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 20:31                         ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 21:30                           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                             ` <87k30vwskd.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 22:17                               ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                 ` <20150109221715.GN22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 22:25                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                           ` <20150109203126.GI22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-10  5:32                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                               ` <87h9vzryio.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-10  5:51                                 ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                   ` <20150110055148.GY22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-11  2:00                                     ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                       ` <20150111020030.GF22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-11  2:50                                         ` Al Viro
2015-01-16 18:29                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:53     ` [PATCH review 0/19] Locked mount and loopback mount fixes Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 01/19] mnt: Use hlist_move_list in namespace_unlock Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 02/19] mnt: Improve the umount_tree flags Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 03/19] mnt: Don't propagate umounts in __detach_mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 04/19] mnt: In umount_tree reuse mnt_list instead of mnt_hash Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 05/19] mnt: Add MNT_UMOUNT flag Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 06/19] mnt: Delay removal from the mount hash Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 07/19] mnt: On an unmount propagate clearing of MNT_LOCKED Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 08/19] mnt: Don't propagate unmounts to locked mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 09/19] mnt: Fail collect_mounts when applied to unmounted mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  8:55         ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
     [not found]           ` <1428051353.1924.2.camel-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-09 16:39             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 10/19] mnt: Factor out unhash_mnt from detach_mnt and umount_tree Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 11/19] mnt: Factor umount_mnt from umount_tree Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 12/19] fs_pin: Allow for the possibility that m_list or s_list go unused Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <1428026183-14879-12-git-send-email-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11 13:36           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 13/19] mnt: Honor MNT_LOCKED when detaching mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 14/19] mnt: Fix the error check in __detach_mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 15/19] mnt: Update detach_mounts to leave mounts connected Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 16/19] mnt: Track which mounts use a dentry as root Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <1428026183-14879-16-git-send-email-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-03  5:54           ` Al Viro
     [not found]             ` <20150403055449.GE889-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-03 10:31               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-07 20:22             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 17/19] vfs: Test for and handle paths that are unreachable from their mnt_root Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 18/19] vfs: Handle mounts whose parents are unreachable from their mountpoint Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  1:56       ` [PATCH review 19/19] vfs: Do not allow escaping from bind mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-03  6:20         ` Al Viro
     [not found]           ` <20150403062035.GF889-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-03 10:22             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-08 23:31       ` [PATCH review 0/4] Loopback mount escape fixes Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-08 23:33         ` [PATCH review 3/4] vfs: Handle mounts whose parents are unreachable from their mountpoint Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-08 23:34         ` [PATCH review 4/4] vfs: Do not allow escaping from bind mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-09 13:06           ` Jann Horn
     [not found]             ` <20150409130601.GA22250-J1fxOzX/cBvk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-09 16:52               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-09 23:22           ` Al Viro
2015-04-10  2:51             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-10  3:14               ` Al Viro
2015-04-13 12:18         ` [PATCH review 0/4] Loopback mount escape fixes Miklos Szeredi
2015-07-24 20:39           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <874moq9oyb.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-08 23:32           ` [PATCH review 1/4] mnt: Track which mounts use a dentry as root Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-08 23:32           ` [PATCH review 2/4] vfs: Test for and handle paths that are unreachable from their mnt_root Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87sica8ac5.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-09 23:16               ` Al Viro
     [not found]                 ` <20150409231636.GW889-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-10  2:24                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-09 19:01           ` [PATCH review 0/4] Loopback mount escape fixes Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-09 19:12             ` Al Viro
2015-04-09 19:14               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-03 21:25           ` [PATCH review 0/6] Bind " Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-03 21:26             ` [PATCH review 1/6] mnt: Track which mounts use a dentry as root Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-07 10:46               ` Nikolay Borisov
2015-08-07 15:43                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <871tfkawu9.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-03 21:26               ` [PATCH review 2/6] dcache: Handle escaped paths in prepend_path Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-03 21:27               ` [PATCH review 3/6] dcache: Implement d_common_ancestor Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-05  3:14               ` [PATCH review 7/6] vfs: Make mnt_escape_count 64bit Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-03 21:27             ` [PATCH review 4/6] mnt: Track when a directory escapes a bind mount Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]               ` <87egjk9i61.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-10  4:36                 ` Al Viro
     [not found]                   ` <20150810043637.GC14139-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-10  4:43                     ` Al Viro
2015-08-14  4:10                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <877foymrwt.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-14  4:29                       ` [PATCH review 0/8] Bind mount escape fixes Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-14  4:30                         ` [PATCH review 1/8] dcache: Handle escaped paths in prepend_path Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-14  4:30                         ` [PATCH review 2/8] dcache: Reduce the scope of i_lock in d_splice_alias Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-14  4:31                         ` [PATCH review 3/8] dcache: Clearly separate the two directory rename cases " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                           ` <87fv3mjxsc.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-15  6:16                             ` Al Viro
     [not found]                               ` <20150815061617.GG14139-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-15 18:25                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                   ` <874mk08l3g.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-15 18:35                                     ` [PATCH review 0/7] Bind mount escape fixes Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-15 18:36                                       ` [PATCH review 1/7] dcache: Handle escaped paths in prepend_path Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-15 18:36                                       ` [PATCH review 2/7] dcache: Reduce the scope of i_lock in d_splice_alias Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-15 18:37                                       ` [PATCH review 4/7] dcache: Implement d_common_ancestor Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                       ` <87a8ts763c.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-15 18:37                                         ` [PATCH review 3/7] mnt: Track which mounts use a dentry as root Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-15 18:38                                         ` [PATCH review 5/7] dcache: Only read d_flags once in d_is_dir Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-15 19:36                                       ` [PATCH review 0/7] Bind mount escape fixes Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                         ` <CA+55aFzMuCn33yK71HoKnj1hr8=ac_Y-vfE5mM8h4f3YJeGKvg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-15 19:48                                           ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                             ` <CA+55aFyeu-p_3eJQCLM0TDuLYvo10mx379FaCFq7Z103RgKvVA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-15 21:07                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                 ` <E2AECA7F-ED57-4FCD-A4C0-8C7C4B860FB6-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-15 22:47                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                                     ` <CA+55aFx2s7TrmPKviKnFL0nGRZDHuCajW_UO02EnF+CsJY2-4w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16  0:59                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                         ` <87bne82glg.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16  1:27                                                           ` [PATCH] vfs: Test for and handle paths that are unreachable from their mnt_root Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-17  3:56                                                             ` NeilBrown
2015-08-16  2:12                                                       ` [PATCH review 0/7] Bind mount escape fixes Al Viro
2015-08-16  2:25                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                                           ` <CA+55aFy3pzEY=4dfd_PX-Og_b7fqrG1rDniOqehBfQhXb=Cg9A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16  4:53                                                             ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                                               ` <20150816045322.GJ14139-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16  6:22                                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-16  6:55                                                                   ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20150816065503.GL14139-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16  7:04                                                                       ` Al Viro
2015-08-16 11:33                                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                                         ` <87bne7piwu.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-21  7:51                                                                           ` Al Viro
2015-08-21 15:27                                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-16 11:51                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-16 22:29                                                               ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2015-08-15 18:39                                     ` [PATCH review 6/7] mnt: Track when a directory escapes a bind mount Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-15 18:39                                   ` [PATCH review 7/7] vfs: Test for and handle paths that are unreachable from their mnt_root Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <87wpwyjxwc.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-14  4:32                           ` [PATCH review 4/8] mnt: Track which mounts use a dentry as root Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-14  4:33                           ` [PATCH review 5/8] dcache: Implement d_common_ancestor Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-14  4:34                           ` [PATCH review 6/8] dcache: Only read d_flags once is d_is_dir Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-14  4:35                           ` [PATCH review 7/8] mnt: Track when a directory escapes a bind mount Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-14  4:36                           ` [PATCH review 8/8] vfs: Test for and handle paths that are unreachable from their mnt_root Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-03 21:30             ` [PATCH review 5/6] " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]               ` <878u9s9i1d.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-10  4:38                 ` Al Viro
     [not found]                   ` <20150810043814.GD14139-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-10 19:34                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-03 21:30             ` [PATCH review 6/6] vfs: Cache the results of path_connected Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-04 11:52               ` Andrew Vagin
     [not found]                 ` <20150804115215.GA317-wo1vFcy6AUs@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-04 17:41                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-04 19:44                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-08-04 22:58                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <874mkey824.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-05 15:59                           ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                             ` <20150805155948.GD17797-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-05 16:28                               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                 ` <878u9pwvg8.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28 19:43                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-08-28 19:45                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                       ` <20150828194540.GF10468-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31 21:17                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                           ` <87k2sb88ev.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-01 14:46                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-09-01 18:00                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-09-01 18:11                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-16 23:40       ` [GIT PULL] Usernamespace related locked mount fixes Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-16 23:42         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-02 21:52 ` [PATCH review 2/9] mnt: Don't propagate umounts in __detach_mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-02 21:52 ` [PATCH review 3/9] mnt: In umount_tree reuse mnt_list instead of mnt_hash Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-02 21:52 ` [PATCH review 4/9] mnt: Add MNT_UMOUNT flag Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-02 21:52 ` [PATCH review 5/9] mnt: Delay removal from the mount hash Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-02 21:52 ` [PATCH review 6/9] mnt: Factor out __detach_mnt from detach_mnt Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-02 21:52 ` [PATCH review 7/9] mnt: Simplify umount_tree Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-02 21:52 ` [PATCH review 8/9] mnt: Remove redundant NULL tests in namespace_unlock Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-02 21:52 ` [PATCH review 9/9] mnt: Honor MNT_LOCKED when detaching mounts Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]   ` <1420235574-15177-9-git-send-email-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-03  2:27     ` Eric W. Biederman

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