From: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs-writeback: drop wb->list_lock during blk_finish_plug()
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:56:47 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150917235647.GG8624@ret.masoncoding.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw40VNejeCtHC+-fPThK+xp9WnoNGQUwYW2JEVoVp5JJw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 04:08:19PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com> wrote:
> >
> > Playing around with the plug a little, most of the unplugs are coming
> > from the cond_resched_lock(). Not really sure why we are doing the
> > cond_resched() there, we should be doing it before we retake the lock
> > instead.
> >
> > This patch takes my box (with dirty thresholds at 1.5GB/3GB) from 195K
> > files/sec up to 213K. Average IO size is the same as 4.3-rc1.
>
> Ok, so at least for you, part of the problem really ends up being that
> there's a mix of the "synchronous" unplugging (by the actual explicit
> "blk_finish_plug(&plug);") and the writeback that is handed off to
> kblockd_workqueue.
>
> I'm not seeing why that should be an issue. Sure, there's some CPU
> overhead to context switching, but I don't see that it should be that
> big of a deal.
>
> I wonder if there is something more serious wrong with the kblockd_workqueue.
I'm driving the box pretty hard, it's right on the line between CPU
bound and IO bound. So I've got 32 fs_mark processes banging away and
32 CPUs (16 really, with hyperthreading).
They are popping in and out of balance_dirty_pages() so I have high CPU
utilization alternating with high IO wait times. There no reads at all,
so all of these waits are for buffered writes.
People in balance_dirty_pages are indirectly waiting on the unplug, so
maybe the context switch overhead on a loaded box is enough to explain
it. We've definitely gotten more than 9% by inlining small synchronous
items in btrfs in the past, but those were more explicitly synchronous.
I know it's painfully hand wavy. I don't see any other users of the
kblockd workqueues, and the perf profiles don't jump out at me. I'll
feel better about the patch if Dave confirms any gains.
-chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-17 23:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-11 19:37 [PATCH] fs-writeback: drop wb->list_lock during blk_finish_plug() Chris Mason
2015-09-11 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 20:40 ` Josef Bacik
2015-09-11 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 23:16 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-11 23:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12 0:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12 2:15 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-12 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12 23:00 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-12 23:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12 23:46 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-13 13:12 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-13 22:56 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-13 23:12 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-14 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-16 15:16 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-16 19:58 ` Jan Kara
2015-09-16 20:00 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-16 22:07 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 0:37 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 1:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17 2:14 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17 22:42 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-17 23:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17 23:56 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2015-09-18 0:37 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-18 1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18 5:40 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-18 6:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18 6:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18 14:21 ` Jens Axboe
2015-09-18 13:16 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-18 14:23 ` Jens Axboe
2015-09-18 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18 15:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-18 16:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-18 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-28 14:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-28 16:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-29 7:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-18 22:17 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-21 9:24 ` Jan Kara
2015-09-21 20:21 ` Andrew Morton
2015-09-17 23:03 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17 3:48 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-17 4:30 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 12:13 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-11 23:06 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-11 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-09 15:23 Chris Mason
2015-09-11 18:49 ` Jens Axboe
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20150917235647.GG8624@ret.masoncoding.com \
--to=clm@fb.com \
--cc=david@fromorbit.com \
--cc=hch@lst.de \
--cc=jack@suse.cz \
--cc=jbacik@fb.com \
--cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=neilb@suse.de \
--cc=tj@kernel.org \
--cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).