From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs-writeback: drop wb->list_lock during blk_finish_plug()
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:55:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150929075541.GA30097@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyrT12mdrs=gPRqfAk-w-f6-E6szAx1YQg1=QZnpoGRQg@mail.gmail.com>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> >> It gets set by preemption - and,
> >> somewhat illogically, by cond_resched().
> >
> > I suspect that was done to make cond_resched() (voluntary preemption)
> > more robust and only have a single preemption path/logic. But all that
> > was done well before I got involved.
>
> So I think it's actually the name that is bad, not necessarily the behavior.
>
> We tend to put "cond_resched()" (and particularly
> "cond_resched_lock()") in some fairly awkward places, and it's not
> always entirely clear that task->state == TASK_RUNNING there.
>
> So the preemptive behavior of not *really* putting the task to sleep
> may actually be the right one. But it is rather non-intuitive given
> the name - because "cond_resched()" basically is not at all equivalent
> to "if (need_resched()) schedule()", which you'd kind of expect.
>
> An explicit schedule will actually act on the task->state, and make us
> go to sleep. "cond_resched()" really is just a "voluntary preemption
> point". And I think it would be better if it got named that way.
cond_preempt() perhaps? That would allude to preempt_schedule() and such, and
would make it clearer that it's supposed to be an invariant on the sleep state
(which schedule() is not).
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-29 7:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-11 19:37 [PATCH] fs-writeback: drop wb->list_lock during blk_finish_plug() Chris Mason
2015-09-11 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 20:40 ` Josef Bacik
2015-09-11 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 23:16 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-11 23:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12 0:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12 2:15 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-12 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12 23:00 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-12 23:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12 23:46 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-13 13:12 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-13 22:56 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-13 23:12 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-14 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-16 15:16 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-16 19:58 ` Jan Kara
2015-09-16 20:00 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-16 22:07 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 0:37 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 1:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17 2:14 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17 22:42 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-17 23:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17 23:56 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-18 0:37 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-18 1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18 5:40 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-18 6:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18 6:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18 14:21 ` Jens Axboe
2015-09-18 13:16 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-18 14:23 ` Jens Axboe
2015-09-18 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18 15:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-18 16:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-18 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-28 14:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-28 16:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-29 7:55 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-09-18 22:17 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-21 9:24 ` Jan Kara
2015-09-21 20:21 ` Andrew Morton
2015-09-17 23:03 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17 3:48 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-17 4:30 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 12:13 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-11 23:06 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-11 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
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2015-09-09 15:23 Chris Mason
2015-09-11 18:49 ` Jens Axboe
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