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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 9/9] btrfs: btrfs_copy_file_range() only supports reflinks
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 00:29:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151013072959.GB10794@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151012234106.GD11398-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 04:41:06PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> One of the patches in last week's XFS reflink patchbomb adds FALLOC_FL_UNSHARE
> flag; at the moment it _only_ forces copy-on-write of shared blocks, and it
> leaves holes alone.

Yes, I've seen the implementation. 

> Obviously we haven't yet figured out what are peoples' preferences in terms of
> "fill the holes and unshare the shared" vs. "only unshare the shared" vs. "only
> fill the holes".  It isn't that hard to add a FALLOC_FL_UNSHARE_FILL_HOLES flag
> that fills the holes while unsharing is going on.
> 
> Personally I suspect that the most interest is in filling holes and unsharing,
> because they don't want to pay for allocation at a critical stage for anywhere
> in the file.  But I could be wrong, so allowing both goals to be expressed via
> mode allows flexibility.

Exactly.  And a normal falloc should do just that - fill holes and
ensure that we don't need to COW already allocated locks.  So I don't
think we need a new fallocate interface for that.  The question is if we
want a copy interface that gives you the same semantics as if you also
called an fallocate on the destination range.  For that case we'd
usually want to avoid doing the clone and instead do a in-kernel or
hardware assisted copy and then fill the holes with unwritten extents.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-13  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-30 17:26 [PATCH v5 0/9] VFS: In-kernel copy system call Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] vfs: add copy_file_range syscall and vfs helper Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] x86: add sys_copy_file_range to syscall tables Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] btrfs: add .copy_file_range file operation Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] vfs: Copy shouldn't forbid ranges inside the same file Anna Schumaker
2015-10-11 14:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20151011142233.GC31867-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 17:37       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 18:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]           ` <20151014182523.GA31225-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:27             ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] vfs: Copy should use file_out rather than file_in Anna Schumaker
2015-10-11 14:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] vfs: Remove copy_file_range mountpoint checks Anna Schumaker
2015-10-11 14:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-14 17:41     ` Anna Schumaker
     [not found]       ` <561E93C3.2090507-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <1443634014-3026-1-git-send-email-Anna.Schumaker-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-30 17:26   ` [PATCH v5 4/9] vfs: Copy should check len after file open mode Anna Schumaker
     [not found]     ` <1443634014-3026-5-git-send-email-Anna.Schumaker-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-11 14:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-09-30 17:26   ` [PATCH v5 8/9] vfs: Add vfs_copy_file_range() support for pagecache copies Anna Schumaker
2015-10-08  1:40     ` Neil Brown
2015-10-09 11:15       ` Pádraig Brady
     [not found]         ` <5617A1E9.1080509-V8g9lnOeT5ydJdNcDFJN0w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13 20:25           ` Anna Schumaker
     [not found]             ` <561D68B9.8030209-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14  7:41               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <87vbai6sud.fsf-wvvUuzkyo1HefUI2i7LXDhCRmIWqnp/j@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13 19:45         ` Anna Schumaker
     [not found]     ` <1443634014-3026-9-git-send-email-Anna.Schumaker-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-11 14:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20151011142203.GA31867-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-12 23:17           ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-13  3:36             ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]               ` <CAHQdGtQoV0g1p2FYC1vFtFwh=jNq5n+AYOxAuSORVfbfhRY1Hg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13  7:19                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-13  7:30                 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20151012231749.GC11398-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13  7:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-10  6:24                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-14 17:59               ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 18:08                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-14 18:27                   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                     ` <20151014182701.GC31225-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:38                       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CALCETrWrHs6x+aZ7c=sySRCdzwdfUQZH_DL++vLL78NXXN+7FQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:49                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-14 18:53                             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                               ` <CALCETrV2ZG=EV5KLEeOERSbDjXCyaULAn0k34msSPFWvf0Tm9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 19:14                                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-14 19:39                                   ` Pádraig Brady
2015-10-15  5:56                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-14 19:08                       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]                         ` <561EA83E.8080000-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-15  6:36                           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                             ` <20151015063621.GA3025-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-15 12:24                               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]                                 ` <561F9B13.7020804-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16  5:38                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-16 11:46                                     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-16 12:02                                       ` Pádraig Brady
     [not found]                                         ` <5620E74F.50006-V8g9lnOeT5ydJdNcDFJN0w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 12:24                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                             ` <20151016122453.GB5889-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 12:46                                               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]                                       ` <5620E3A1.90408-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 12:21                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-16 12:50                                           ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-16 13:12                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-16 14:11                                               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]                 ` <561E980C.9010509-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:11                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-14 18:26                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-30 17:26   ` [PATCH v5 10/9] copy_file_range.2: New page documenting copy_file_range() Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] btrfs: btrfs_copy_file_range() only supports reflinks Anna Schumaker
     [not found]   ` <1443634014-3026-10-git-send-email-Anna.Schumaker-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-11 14:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <20151011142939.GA30905-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-12 10:23         ` Pádraig Brady
2015-10-12 14:34           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20151012143444.GA10156-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-12 23:41               ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]                 ` <20151012234106.GD11398-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13  7:29                   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <20151013072959.GB10794-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:46                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-15  6:00                         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                           ` <20151015060045.GA23996-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 11:49                             ` Chris Mason
     [not found]                               ` <20151016114919.GB6874-DzB2rL6jT1BHfPKRx072akEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 12:25                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                   ` <20151016122544.GC5889-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 13:19                                     ` Chris Mason
2015-10-16 21:44                                       ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-17 13:44                                         ` Chris Mason
     [not found]                         ` <20151014184608.GK850-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-15  8:35                           ` Dave Chinner

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