From: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
To: Dirk Steinmetz <public@rsjtdrjgfuzkfg.com>
Cc: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] namei: permit linking with CAP_FOWNER in userns
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:33:10 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151028173310.GA21823@ubuntumail> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151028160707.1d54d91f@rsjtdrjgfuzkfg.com>
Quoting Dirk Steinmetz (public@rsjtdrjgfuzkfg.com):
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:28:02 +0000, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> > Quoting Dirk Steinmetz (public@rsjtdrjgfuzkfg.com):
> > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:33:44 -0500, Seth Forshee wrote:
> > > > I did want to point what seems to be an inconsistency in how
> > > > capabilities in user namespaces are handled with respect to inodes. When
> > > > I started looking at this my initial thought was to replace
> > > > capable(CAP_FOWNER) with capable_wrt_inode_uidgid(inode, CAP_FOWNER). On
> > > > the face of it this should be equivalent to what's done here, but it
> > > > turns out that capable_wrt_inode_uidgid requires that the inode's uid
> > > > and gid are both mapped into the namespace whereas
> > > > inode_owner_or_capable only requires the uid be mapped. I'm not sure how
> > > > significant that is, but it seems a bit odd.
> > >
> > > I agree that this seems odd. I've chosen inode_owner_or_capable over
> > > capable_wrt_inode_uidgid(inode, CAP_FOWNER) as it seemed consistent:
> > > a privileged user (with CAP_SETUID) can impersonate the owner UID and thus
> > > bypass the check completely; this also matches the documented behavior of
> > > CAP_FOWNER: "Bypass permission checks on operations that normally require
> > > the filesystem UID of the process to match the UID of the file".
> > >
> > > However, thinking about it I get the feeling that checking the gid seems
> > > reasonable as well. This is, however, independently of user namespaces.
> > > Consider the following scenario in any namespace, including the init one:
> > > - A file has the setgid and user/group executable bits set, and is owned
> > > by user:group.
> > > - The user 'user' is not in the group 'group', and does not have any
> > > capabilities.
> > > - The user 'user' hardlinks the file. The permission check will succeed,
> > > as the user is the owner of the file.
> > > - The file is replaced with a newer version (for example fixing a security
> > > issue)
> > > - Now user can still use the hardlink-pinned version to execute the file
> > > as 'user:group' (and for example exploit the security issue).
> > > I would have expected the user to not be able to hardlink, as he lacks
> > > CAP_FSETID, and thus is not allowed to chmod, change or move the file
> > > without loosing the setgid bit. So it is impossible for him to make a non-
> > > hardlink copy with the setgid bit set -- why should he be able to make a
> > > hardlinked one?
> >
> > Yeah, this sounds sensible. It allows a user without access to 'disk',
> > for instance, to become that group.
> >
> > > It seems to me as if may_linkat would additionally require a check
> > > verifying that either
> > > - not both setgid and group executable bit set
> > > - fsgid == owner gid
> > > - capable_wrt_inode_uidgid(CAP_FSETID) -- or CAP_FOWNER, depending on
> > > whether to adapt chmod's behavior or keeping everything hardlink-
> > > related in CAP_FOWNER; I don't feel qualified enough to pick ;)
> >
> > In particular just changing it is not ok since people who are using file
> > capabilities to grant what they currently need would be stuck with a
> > mysterious new failure.
>
> Is there any use case (besides exploiting hardlinks with malicious intent)
> that would be broken when changing this? There are some (imho) rather
> unlikely conditions to be met in order to observe changed behavior:
The simplest example would be if I wanted to run a very quick program to
just add the symbolic link. Let's say the link /usr/sbin/uuidd were owned
by root:disk and setuid and setgid. The proposed change would force me
to bind in both the root user and disk group, whereas without it I can
just bind in only the root user.
We've already dealt with such regressions and iirc agreed that they were
worthwhile.
> - a user owns an executable setgid-file belonging to a group he is not in
> - the user does not have CAP_FSETID (or CAP_FOWNER, depending on which one
> is chosen to be required)
> - the user is for some legitimate reason supposed to hardlink the file
> If these conditions are not met in practice, the change would not break
> anything. In that case, it would be imho better to not provide
> backward-compatibility to reduce complexity in these checks. Else, I'd
> propose adding a new possible value '2' for
> /proc/sys/fs/protected_hardlinks, while keeping '1' for the current
> behavior.
>
> I can provide an initial draft for either of the options, but would like
> recommendations to which of the two ways to take (or is there a third
> one?), as well as comments on the new condition itself: may_linkat would
> block hardlinks when all of the following conditions are met:
> - sysctrl_protected_hardlinks is enabled or 2 (depending on way)
> - inode uid != fsuid and no CAP_FOWNER (for userns: with mapping on uid),
> while the hardlink source is not a regular file, is a setuid-executable
> or is not accessible for reading and writing
> - inode gid not fsgid or in supplemental gids and no CAP_FSETID (for
> userns: with mapping on gid -- not sure whether the uid is relevant?),
> while the hardlink source is a setgid-executable (with group executable
> bit set)
>
> If anyone else wants to fix the issue, thats fine with me as well.
>
> Dirk
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-28 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-10 14:59 [PATCH] namei: permit linking with CAP_FOWNER in userns Dirk Steinmetz
2015-10-20 14:09 ` Dirk Steinmetz
2015-10-27 14:33 ` Seth Forshee
2015-10-27 18:08 ` Dirk Steinmetz
2015-10-27 20:28 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-10-28 15:07 ` Dirk Steinmetz
2015-10-28 17:33 ` Serge Hallyn [this message]
2015-11-02 15:10 ` Dirk Steinmetz
2015-11-02 18:02 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-11-02 19:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-03 0:39 ` [RFC] namei: prevent sgid-hardlinks for unmapped gids Dirk Steinmetz
2015-11-03 15:44 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-11-03 18:20 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-03 23:21 ` Dirk Steinmetz
2015-11-03 23:29 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-04 6:58 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-11-04 17:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-04 18:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-11-04 18:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-04 18:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-11-06 21:59 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-06 22:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-07 0:11 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-07 0:16 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-07 0:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-07 5:05 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-08 2:02 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-11-10 15:08 ` Jan Kara
2015-11-19 20:11 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-19 21:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-19 22:02 ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-20 0:11 ` Kees Cook
2015-11-04 14:46 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-10-27 21:04 ` [PATCH] namei: permit linking with CAP_FOWNER in userns Eric W. Biederman
2015-11-03 17:51 ` Kees Cook
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2015-09-30 0:05 Dirk Steinmetz
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