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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	"willy@linux.intel.com" <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com" <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	"jack@suse.com" <jack@suse.com>,
	"david@fromorbit.com" <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] mm, dax: truncate dax mappings at bdev or fs shutdown
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 18:12:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151119171227.GC25804@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4iGYPGz6n6YxdEWFJ4c0BZRXrWpa2188K2z9zz4_ez0TA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu 19-11-15 08:55:48, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:55 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> > Also are you sure that your unmapping cannot race with other process
> > mapping the pfns again?
> 
> You're right, there is indeed a gap between the unmap and when
> get_blocks() will start returning errors in the fault path.  I think I
> need to defer the unmapping until after blk_cleanup_queue() where we
> know that no new I/o to the device is possible.

Yeah, you need to squeeze it somewhere after the point where get_blocks()
start returning errors and before the point where pfn can go away.

> > BTW what happens when you access a DAX pfn that got removed?
> 
> SIGBUS.  I don't see a way to be any kinder to the application.  After
> the ->remove() method for the block_device is complete we can't be
> sure that the pfn is valid or even present in the system (think brd,
> or VM hot provisioning).

I see. So if we kept the PFN mapped, it could result e.g. in memory
corruption (at least in case of brd). So we really need this to be 100%
reliable. That's what I was interested in.

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-19 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-17 20:15 [PATCH 0/8] dax fixes / cleanups: pmd vs thp, lifetime, and locking Dan Williams
2015-11-17 20:15 ` [PATCH 1/8] ext2, ext4: warn when mounting with dax enabled Dan Williams
2015-11-17 20:16 ` [PATCH 2/8] dax: disable pmd mappings Dan Williams
2015-11-17 20:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-17 20:16 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm, dax: fix DAX deadlocks (COW fault) Dan Williams
2015-11-17 20:16 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm, dax: truncate dax mappings at bdev or fs shutdown Dan Williams
2015-11-18 15:09   ` Jan Kara
2015-11-19  0:22     ` Williams, Dan J
2015-11-19 12:55       ` Jan Kara
2015-11-19 16:55         ` Dan Williams
2015-11-19 17:12           ` Jan Kara [this message]
2015-11-19 23:17           ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-20  0:05             ` Williams, Dan J
2015-11-20  4:06               ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-20  4:25                 ` Dan Williams
2015-11-20 17:08                   ` Dan Williams
2015-11-17 20:16 ` [PATCH 5/8] pmem, dax: clean up clear_pmem() Dan Williams
2015-11-17 20:16 ` [PATCH 6/8] dax: increase granularity of dax_clear_blocks() operations Dan Williams
2015-11-17 20:16 ` [PATCH 7/8] dax: guarantee page aligned results from bdev_direct_access() Dan Williams
2015-11-17 20:16 ` [PATCH 8/8] dax: fix lifetime of in-kernel dax mappings with dax_map_atomic() Dan Williams

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