From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
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linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/19] capabilities: Allow privileged user in s_user_ns to set file caps
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 14:36:27 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151204203627.GD147214@ubuntu-hedt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151204194206.GF3624@mail.hallyn.com>
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 01:42:06PM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Seth Forshee (seth.forshee@canonical.com):
> > A privileged user in a super block's s_user_ns is privileged
> > towards that file system and thus should be allowed to set file
> > capabilities. The file capabilities will not be trusted outside
> > of s_user_ns, so an unprivileged user cannot use this to gain
> > privileges in a user namespace where they are not already
> > privileged.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
> > ---
> > security/commoncap.c | 12 ++++++++----
> > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/security/commoncap.c b/security/commoncap.c
> > index 2119421613f6..d6c80c19c449 100644
> > --- a/security/commoncap.c
> > +++ b/security/commoncap.c
> > @@ -653,15 +653,17 @@ int cap_bprm_secureexec(struct linux_binprm *bprm)
> > int cap_inode_setxattr(struct dentry *dentry, const char *name,
> > const void *value, size_t size, int flags)
> > {
> > + struct user_namespace *user_ns = dentry->d_sb->s_user_ns;
> > +
> > if (!strcmp(name, XATTR_NAME_CAPS)) {
> > - if (!capable(CAP_SETFCAP))
> > + if (!ns_capable(user_ns, CAP_SETFCAP))
> > return -EPERM;
>
> This, for file capabilities, is fine,
>
> > return 0;
> > }
> >
> > if (!strncmp(name, XATTR_SECURITY_PREFIX,
> > sizeof(XATTR_SECURITY_PREFIX) - 1) &&
> > - !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> > + !ns_capable(user_ns, CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
>
> but this is for all other security.*.
>
> It's probably still ok, but let's think about it a sec. MAC like
> selinux or smack should be orthogonal to DAC. Capabilities are the
> same in essence, but the reason they can be treated differently here
> is because capabilties are in fact targated at a user namespace.
> Apparmor namespaces, for instance, are completely orthogonal to user
> namespaces, as are contexts in selinux.
>
> Now, if smack or selinux xattrs are being set then those modules
> should be gating these writes. Booting a kernel without those
> modules should be a challenge for an untrusted user. But such a
> situation could be exploited opportunistically if it were to happen.
>
> The problem with simply not changing this here is that if selinux
> or smack authorizes the xattr write, then commoncap shouldn't be
> denying it.
This is partly the logic behind the change, the other part being that
the user could already insert the xattrs directly into the backing store
so the LSMs must be prepared not to trust them in any case. But the
commit message doesn't explain that, my mistake. And it's a question
worth revisiting.
> I get the feeling we need cooperation among the modules (i.e. "if
> the write is to 'security.$lsm' and $lsm is not loaded, then require
> capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN), else just allow) But that's not how things are
> structured right now.
>
> Maybe security.ko could grow central logic to 'assign' security.*
> capabilities to specific lsms and gate writes to those if $lsm is not
> loaded.
I don't see any meaningful difference between this case and the case of
inserting them into the backing store before mounting. We can't do
anything to prevent the latter, so LSMs just have to be aware of
unprivileged mounts and handle them with care. Previous patches do this
for SELinux and Smack by adopting a policy that doesn't respect security
labels on disk for these mounts. So I don't think that refusing to set
security.* xattrs for an LSM that isn't loaded really accomplishes
anything.
Then there's the case of setting xattrs for an LSM that is currently
loaded. I think that SELinux and Smack are both going to refuse these
writes, Smack rather directly by seeing that the user lacks global
CAP_MAC_ADMIN and SELinux by virtue of the fact that the previous patch
in this series applies mountpoint labeling to these mounts. As far as I
can tell the other LSMs don't take security policy from xattrs.
So, as far as I can tell, removing the check doesn't create any
vulnerabilities.
But that's not to say it's the right thing to do. After reconsidering
it, I'm inclined to be more conservative and to keep requiring
capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) until such time as there's a use case for
allowing a user privileged only in s_user_ns to write these xattrs.
> Does anything break if the second hunk in each fn in this patch is
> not applied?
Not that I'm aware of, no.
Seth
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-04 20:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-02 15:40 [PATCH 00/19] Support fuse mounts in user namespaces Seth Forshee
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 01/19] block_dev: Support checking inode permissions in lookup_bdev() Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 16:26 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 02/19] block_dev: Check permissions towards block device inode when mounting Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 16:28 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 03/19] fs: Treat foreign mounts as nosuid Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 16:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 04/19] selinux: Add support for unprivileged mounts from user namespaces Seth Forshee
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 05/19] userns: Replace in_userns with current_in_userns Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 17:01 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 06/19] Smack: Handle labels consistently in untrusted mounts Seth Forshee
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 07/19] fs: Check for invalid i_uid in may_follow_link() Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 16:42 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 08/19] cred: Reject inodes with invalid ids in set_create_file_as() Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 16:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 09/19] fs: Refuse uid/gid changes which don't map into s_user_ns Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 17:27 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-04 17:46 ` Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 19:42 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 10/19] fs: Update posix_acl support to handle user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 18:50 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 11/19] fs: Ensure the mounter of a filesystem is privileged towards its inodes Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 19:00 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 12/19] fs: Don't remove suid for CAP_FSETID in s_user_ns Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 19:02 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 13/19] fs: Allow superblock owner to access do_remount_sb() Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 19:02 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 14/19] fs: Permit FIBMAP for users with CAP_SYS_RAWIO in s_user_ns Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 19:11 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-04 20:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-12-04 20:07 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-04 20:45 ` Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 23:11 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-12-04 23:43 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-05 6:15 ` Seth Forshee
2015-12-05 0:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 15/19] capabilities: Allow privileged user in s_user_ns to set file caps Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 19:42 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-04 20:36 ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2015-12-04 22:05 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 16/19] fuse: Add support for pid namespaces Seth Forshee
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 17/19] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 15:38 ` Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 20:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-04 20:41 ` Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 21:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 18/19] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 20:05 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-04 20:43 ` Seth Forshee
2015-12-04 21:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 15:40 ` [PATCH 19/19] fuse: Allow user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
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