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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ->get_link(), ->put_link() and cookies
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 21:40:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160103214023.GO9938@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzQBDKiqg1vT2-H3M5QJ+6iheeRSECXf8qP4F7b+SpK0g@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 12:41:47PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> I like how it removes "put_link()" as a callback, but at the same time
> I think it's even more abstract than the cookie was.
> 
> The main worry I have is that the naming is generic, but there's only
> a single very specialized use for it. Do we expect other uses?

Quite possibly - I don't have anything specific planned right now, but
I would be surprised if there hadn't been open-coded equivalents
of that thing in many places, and not only "too many instances to touch"
kind of holy cows, at that (timers are obviously very similar, but these
_do_ have way too many instances to even think of converting them).

> Because if not, I think it would be clearer if it was named to be more
> concretely about putlink, and avoid the fact that it feels very
> abstract.
> 
> Don't get me wrong - abstract generalized helper functions are cool.
> But people aren't very abstract, and it tends to make for confusing
> code when you aren't intimately familiar with the rules.

The rules are pretty simple - there are 4 primitives total.
1) DEFINE_DELAYED_CALL(name) - usual DEFINE_MUTEX, etc. style initialized
declaration.
2) set_delayed_call(delayed_call, function, argument) - function is
void(void *), argument is void *.  A-la setup_timer().
3) clear_delayed_call(delayed_call) - resets.
4) do_delayed_call(delayed_call) - evaluates.

That's it.  If you have better suggestions re names, I'd be glad to take
them, but the set of primitives and the rules to go with those are as
simple as it gets.

Sure, we can give it a less generic name for now and just do what we'd done
for another generic thing (rcu_head, aka callback_head) when unrelated
uses show up, but I don't see much point going that way, TBH...

      reply	other threads:[~2016-01-03 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-01  6:36 [RFC] ->get_link(), ->put_link() and cookies Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 01/13] switch befs long symlinks to page_symlink_operations Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 02/13] logfs: don't duplicate page_symlink_inode_operations Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 03/13] udf: " Al Viro
2016-01-05 16:27   ` Jan Kara
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 04/13] ufs: get rid of ->setattr() for symlinks Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 05/13] namei: page_getlink() and page_follow_link_light() are the same thing Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 06/13] don't put symlink bodies in pagecache into highmem Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 07/13] replace ->follow_link() with new method that could stay in RCU mode Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 08/13] teach page_get_link() to work " Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 09/13] teach shmem_get_link() " Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 10/13] teach proc_self_get_link()/proc_thread_self_get_link() " Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 11/13] teach nfs_get_link() " Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 12/13] kill free_page_put_link() Al Viro
2016-01-01  6:38 ` [PATCH 13/13] switch ->get_link() to delayed_call, kill ->put_link() Al Viro
2016-01-03 19:53 ` [RFC] ->get_link(), ->put_link() and cookies Linus Torvalds
2016-01-03 20:21   ` Al Viro
2016-01-03 20:41     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-03 21:40       ` Al Viro [this message]

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