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From: Dominique Martinet <dominique.martinet@cea.fr>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	V9FS Developers <v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [V9fs-developer] Hang triggered by udev coldplug, looks like a race
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 17:09:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160104160924.GA12687@u-isr-ctg-01> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160104155915.GI6344@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

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Peter Zijlstra wrote on Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 04:59:15PM +0100:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 10:43:26PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > [add cc's]
> > 
> > Hi scheduler people:
> > 
> > This is relatively easy for me to reproduce.  Any hints for debugging
> > it?  Could we really have a bug in which processes that are
> > schedulable as a result of mutex unlock aren't always reliably
> > scheduled?
> 
> I would expect that to cause wide-spread fail, then again, virt is known
> to tickle timing issues that are improbable on actual hardware so
> anything is possible.
>
> Does it reproduce with DEBUG_MUTEXES set? (I'm not seeing a .config
> here).

The config has CONFIG_DEBUG_MUTEXES=y

It got attached a while ago, reposting it here.

> If its really easy you could start by tracing events/sched/sched_switch
> events/sched/sched_wakeup, those would be the actual scheduling events.

I'm sure I've missed something in /Documentation but I'm not aware how
to trace these? (I'm happy to save Andy some precious time as I've got a
reproducer all set up now)

> Without DEBUG_MUTEXES there's the MUTEX_SPIN_ON_OWNER code that could
> still confuse things, but that's mutex internal and not scheduler
> related.
> 
> If it ends up being the SPIN_ON_OWNER bits we'll have to cook up some
> extra debug patches.

-- 
Dominique

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-04 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-04  5:52 Hang triggered by udev coldplug, looks like a race Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-07 19:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-07 22:46   ` [V9fs-developer] " Dominique Martinet
2015-12-08  1:59     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-08  2:33       ` Al Viro
2015-12-08 22:49         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-09  6:23           ` Dominique Martinet
2015-12-09  6:41             ` Dominique Martinet
2015-12-09  6:45             ` Al Viro
2015-12-17 21:06               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-24 10:51                 ` Dominique Martinet
2015-12-30  6:43                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-04 15:59                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-04 16:09                       ` Dominique Martinet [this message]
2016-01-04 19:07                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-04 19:27                           ` Peter Zijlstra

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