From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Deepa Dinamani <deepa.kernel@gmail.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
"y2038@lists.linaro.org" <y2038@lists.linaro.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 02/15] vfs: Change all structures to support 64 bit time
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:38:06 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160119013806.GC16611@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4006633.5eZd1aWvky@wuerfel>
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:46:07PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 January 2016 08:14:59 Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 08:53:22PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > 3. for each file system that uses struct timespec internally to pass
> > > around inode timestamps, do one patch that adds a
> > > timespec_to_inode_time() and vice versa, which gets defined like
> > >
> > > static inline struct timespec timespec_to_inode(struct timespec t)
> > > {
> > > return t;
> > > }
> >
> > This works, and is much cleaner than propagating the macro nastiness
> > everywhere. IMO vfs_time_to_timespec()/timespec_to_vfs_time would be
> > better named as it describes the conversion exactly. I don't think
> > this is a huge patch, though - it's mainly the setattr/kstat
> > operations that need changing here.
>
> Good idea for the name.
>
> If you are ok with adding those helpers, then it can be done in small
> steps indeed. I was under the assumption that you didn't like any
> kind of abstraction of the type in struct inode at all.
You're right, I don't like unnecessary abstractions. I guess I've
not communicated the "convert timestamps at the edges, use native
timestamp types everywhere inside" structure very well, because type
conversion functions such as the above are an absolutely necessary
part of ensuring we don't need abstractions in the core code... :P
> > > 4. change the internal representation in one patch that changes those
> > > helpers along with the struct members.
> >
> > If you are talking about converting internal filesystem
> > representations to (e.g. CIFS fattr, NFS fattr, etc) then this is
> > wrong. Those filesystems are isolated and able to use timespecs
> > internally by step 3, and without protocol/format changes can't
> > support y2038k compliant dates. Hence fixing such problems is a
> > problem for the filesystem developers and is not an issue for the
> > VFS timestamp conversion.
>
> No, once we have the timespec_to_vfs_time helpers in all file
> systems, that change is just for VFS, and should not touch
> any file system specific code.
OK, just wanted to make clear, because to me "internal" tends to
mean "within a specific filesystem" whilst "generic" is used to
refer to things at the VFS layer...
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-19 1:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-07 5:35 [RFC 00/15] Add 64 bit timestamp support Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:35 ` [RFC 01/15] fs: add Kconfig entry CONFIG_FS_USES_64BIT_TIME Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:35 ` [RFC 02/15] vfs: Change all structures to support 64 bit time Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-10 23:03 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-12 5:42 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-12 8:29 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-12 9:27 ` [Y2038] " Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-13 6:27 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-13 9:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-13 16:33 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-13 21:04 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-14 16:53 ` [Y2038] " Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-14 18:00 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-14 21:00 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-14 22:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-14 22:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-15 2:27 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-15 17:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-15 22:41 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-15 2:49 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-15 16:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-16 19:14 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-01-16 23:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-17 2:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-01-18 6:09 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-18 10:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-18 17:40 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-18 19:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-18 21:14 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-18 21:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-19 1:38 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2016-01-19 5:27 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-19 20:49 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-19 22:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-20 5:12 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-20 15:04 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-20 23:06 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-20 23:17 ` [Y2038] " Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-27 6:26 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-15 5:03 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 03/15] kernel: time: Add macros and functions " Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 04/15] vfs: Add support for vfs code to use " Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 05/15] fs: cifs: Add support for cifs " Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 06/15] fs: fat: convert fat to " Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 07/15] fs: ext4: convert to use " Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 08/15] fs: Enable " Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 09/15] fs: cifs: replace inode_timespec with timespec64 Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 10/15] fs: fat: " Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 11/15] fs: ext4: " Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 12/15] vfs: remove inode_timespec and timespec references Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 13/15] kernel: time: change inode_timespec to timespec64 Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 8:50 ` Michael Adam
2016-01-07 10:42 ` Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 14/15] vfs: Remove inode_timespec aliases Deepa Dinamani
2016-01-07 5:36 ` [RFC 15/15] fs: Drop CONFIG_FS_USES_64BIT_TIME Deepa Dinamani
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