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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [git pull] vfs.git - including i_mutex wrappers
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 01:41:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160124014111.GV17997@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160124005304.GK6033@dastard>

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:53:04AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > readdir() is another potential target for weaker exclusion (i.e. switching
> > it to taking that thing shared), but that's a separate story and I'd prefer
> > to deal with ->lookup() first.  There are potentially hairy issues around
> > the instances that pre-seed dcache and I don't want to mix them into the
> > initial series.
> 
> So you're doing this for purely to enable lookup concurrency, not
> for anyone else to be able to use the inode lock as a read/write
> lock? Can anyone use the inode rwsem as a read/write lock for their
> own purposes? If so, we can probably use it to replace the XFS
> IOLOCK and so effectively remove a layer of locking in various
> XFS IO paths. What's the policy you are proposing here?

Depends...  I definitely want to keep directory modifiers with that thing
taken exclusive, with lookup and possibly readdir - shared.  Non-directories...
it's mostly up to filesystems; the only place where VFS cares is setattr
and {set,remove}xattr, and that probably should stay exclusive (or be
separated, for that matter, but I hadn't looked into implications of that;
we probably can do that, but there might be dragons).

For data operations on regular files it's probably up to filesystems, as
i_mutex is now.  Not sure if IOLOCK would map well on that; can you live with
that thing taken outside of transaction?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-24  1:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-23 14:58 [git pull] vfs.git - including i_mutex wrappers Al Viro
2016-01-23 22:34 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-23 22:44   ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-23 23:09     ` Al Viro
2016-01-23 23:38       ` Al Viro
2016-01-24  0:53       ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-24  1:41         ` Al Viro [this message]
2016-01-24  7:04           ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-24  7:48             ` Al Viro
2016-01-23 23:48     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-24  0:26       ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-24  1:20         ` Al Viro
2016-01-24  7:17           ` Dave Chinner

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