From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [git pull] vfs.git - including i_mutex wrappers
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 01:41:12 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160124014111.GV17997@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160124005304.GK6033@dastard>
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:53:04AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > readdir() is another potential target for weaker exclusion (i.e. switching
> > it to taking that thing shared), but that's a separate story and I'd prefer
> > to deal with ->lookup() first. There are potentially hairy issues around
> > the instances that pre-seed dcache and I don't want to mix them into the
> > initial series.
>
> So you're doing this for purely to enable lookup concurrency, not
> for anyone else to be able to use the inode lock as a read/write
> lock? Can anyone use the inode rwsem as a read/write lock for their
> own purposes? If so, we can probably use it to replace the XFS
> IOLOCK and so effectively remove a layer of locking in various
> XFS IO paths. What's the policy you are proposing here?
Depends... I definitely want to keep directory modifiers with that thing
taken exclusive, with lookup and possibly readdir - shared. Non-directories...
it's mostly up to filesystems; the only place where VFS cares is setattr
and {set,remove}xattr, and that probably should stay exclusive (or be
separated, for that matter, but I hadn't looked into implications of that;
we probably can do that, but there might be dragons).
For data operations on regular files it's probably up to filesystems, as
i_mutex is now. Not sure if IOLOCK would map well on that; can you live with
that thing taken outside of transaction?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-24 1:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-23 14:58 [git pull] vfs.git - including i_mutex wrappers Al Viro
2016-01-23 22:34 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-23 22:44 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-23 23:09 ` Al Viro
2016-01-23 23:38 ` Al Viro
2016-01-24 0:53 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-24 1:41 ` Al Viro [this message]
2016-01-24 7:04 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-24 7:48 ` Al Viro
2016-01-23 23:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-24 0:26 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-24 1:20 ` Al Viro
2016-01-24 7:17 ` Dave Chinner
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