From: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:24:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160202182407.GA14510@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4i2wax70G6EmU2af2tKehhj=GUzByZrP79R1P3FtPEVKw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 09:47:37AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Ross Zwisler
> > <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 09:10:24AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> >>> > On Tue 02-02-16 08:33:56, Dan Williams wrote:
> >>> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:17 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> >>> >> [..]
> >>> >> > I see, thanks for explanation. So I'm OK with changing what is stored in
> >>> >> > the radix tree to accommodate this use case but my reservation that we IHMO
> >>> >> > have other more pressing things to fix remains...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> We don't need pfns in the radix to support XFS RT configurations.
> >>> >> Just call get_blocks() again and use the sector, or am I missing
> >>> >> something?
> >>> >
> >>> > You are correct. But if you decide to pay the cost of additional
> >>> > get_block() call, you only need the dirty tag in the radix tree and nothing
> >>> > else. So my understanding was that the whole point of games with radix tree
> >>> > is avoiding this extra get_block() calls for fsync().
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> DAX-fsync() is already a potentially expensive operation to cover data
> >>> durability guarantees for DAX-unaware applications. A DAX-aware
> >>> application is going to skip fsync, and the get_blocks() cost, to do
> >>> cache management itself.
> >>>
> >>> Willy pointed out some other potential benefits, assuming a suitable
> >>> replacement for the protections afforded by the block-device
> >>> percpu_ref counter can be found. However, optimizing for the
> >>> DAX-unaware-application case seems the wrong motivation to me.
> >>
> >> Oh, no, the primary issue with calling get_block() in the fsync path isn't
> >> performance. It's that we don't have any idea what get_block() function to
> >> call.
> >>
> >> The fault handler calls all come from the filesystem directly, so they can
> >> easily give us an appropriate get_block() function pointer. But the
> >> dax_writeback_mapping_range() calls come from the generic code in
> >> mm/filemap.c, and don't know what get_block() to pass in.
> >>
> >> During one iteration I had the calls to dax_writeback_mapping_range()
> >> happening in the filesystem fsync code so that it could pass in get_block(),
> >> but Dave Chinner pointed out that this misses other paths in the filesystem
> >> that need to have things flushed via a call to filemap_write_and_wait_range().
> >>
> >> In yet another iteration of this series I tried adding get_block() to struct
> >> inode_operations so that I could access it from what is now
> >> dax_writeback_mapping_range(), but this was shot down as well.
> >
> > Ugh, and we can't trigger it from where a filesystem normally syncs a
> > block device, becauDid you tryse we lose track of the inode radix
>
> [ sorry, copy paste error ]
>
> block device, because we lose track of the inode radix
>
> > information at that level.
> >
> > What a about a super_operation? That seems the right level, given
> > we're currently doing:
> >
> > inode->i_sb->s_bdev
> >
> > ...it does not seem terrible to instead do:
> >
> > inode->i_sb->s_op->get_block()
This seems promising. I'll try and code it up.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-02 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-28 19:35 [PATCH 1/2] block: fix pfn_mkwrite() DAX fault handler Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 20:21 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-28 21:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-01-29 18:28 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-29 23:34 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-30 0:18 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 22:44 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-30 5:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-30 6:01 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-30 7:08 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-31 2:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 6:12 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-31 10:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 16:38 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:18 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:50 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 19:51 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-01 13:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 14:51 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-01 20:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 21:47 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02 6:06 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 6:46 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 8:05 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 16:51 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 21:46 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-03 0:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03 1:21 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 11:17 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 16:33 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 16:46 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 17:10 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:34 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 17:46 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:47 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 18:24 ` Ross Zwisler [this message]
2016-02-02 18:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-02 18:59 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 20:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03 11:09 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 10:46 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 20:13 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 9:15 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 23:38 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:15 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07 5:27 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 19:56 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 20:29 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 22:19 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-05 22:25 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:40 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07 6:43 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-08 13:48 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-07 8:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08 15:55 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:41 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:53 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 0:02 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 7:10 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02 10:34 ` Jan Kara
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