From: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:53:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160202185341.GA10496@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160202184134.GA18486@linux.intel.com>
On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 11:41:34AM -0700, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 12:17:23PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Tue 02-02-16 08:47:30, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 03:51:47PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > On Sat 30-01-16 00:28:33, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:28:15AM -0700, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> > > > > > I guess I need to go off and understand if we can have DAX mappings on such a
> > > > > > device. If we can, we may have a problem - we can get the block_device from
> > > > > > get_block() in I/O path and the various fault paths, but we don't have access
> > > > > > to get_block() when flushing via dax_writeback_mapping_range(). We avoid
> > > > > > needing it the normal case by storing the sector results from get_block() in
> > > > > > the radix tree.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think we're doing it wrong by storing the sector in the radix tree; we'd
> > > > > really need to store both the sector and the bdev which is too much data.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we store the PFN of the underlying page instead, we don't have this
> > > > > problem. Instead, we have a different problem; of the device going
> > > > > away under us. I'm trying to find the code which tears down PTEs when
> > > > > the device goes away, and I'm not seeing it. What do we do about user
> > > > > mappings of the device?
> > > >
> > > > So I don't have a strong opinion whether storing PFN or sector is better.
> > > > Maybe PFN is somewhat more generic but OTOH turning DAX off for special
> > > > cases like inodes on XFS RT devices would be IMHO fine.
> > >
> > > We need to support alternate devices.
> > >
> > > There is a strong case for using the XFS RT device with DAX,
> > > especially for applications that know they are going to always use
> > > large/huge/giant pages to access their data files. The XFS RT device
> > > can guarantee allocation is always aligned to large/huge/giant page
> > > constraints right up to ENOSPC and throughout the production life of
> > > the filesystem. We have no other filesystem capable of providing
> > > such guarantees, which means the XFS RT device is uniquely suited to
> > > certain aplications with DAX...
> >
> > I see, thanks for explanation. So I'm OK with changing what is stored in
> > the radix tree to accommodate this use case but my reservation that we IHMO
> > have other more pressing things to fix remains...
>
> IMO this is pretty pressing - without it neither XFS RT devices nor DAX raw
> block devices work. The case has been made above for XFS RT devices, and with
> DAX raw block devices we really need a fix because the current code will cause
> a kernel BUG when a user tries to fsync/msync a raw block device mmap(). This
> is especially bad because, unlike with filesystems where you mount with the
> dax mount option, there is no opt-in step for raw block devices.
>
> This has to be fixed - it seems like we either figure out how to fix DAX
> fsync, or we have to disable DAX on raw block devices for a kernel cycle. I'm
> hoping for the former. :)
Well, I guess a third option would be to keep DAX raw block device in and just
take this patch as a temporary fix:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/1/28/679
This would leave XFS RT broken, though, so we may want to explicitly disable
DAX + XFS RT configs for now, but at least we wouldn't have the raw block
device kernel BUG.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-02 18:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-28 19:35 [PATCH 1/2] block: fix pfn_mkwrite() DAX fault handler Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 20:21 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-28 21:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-01-29 18:28 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-29 23:34 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-30 0:18 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 22:44 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-30 5:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-30 6:01 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-30 7:08 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-31 2:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 6:12 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-31 10:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 16:38 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:18 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:50 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 19:51 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-01 13:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 14:51 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-01 20:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 21:47 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02 6:06 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 6:46 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 8:05 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 16:51 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 21:46 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-03 0:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03 1:21 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 11:17 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 16:33 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 16:46 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 17:10 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:34 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 17:46 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:47 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 18:24 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-02 18:59 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 20:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03 11:09 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 10:46 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 20:13 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 9:15 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 23:38 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:15 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07 5:27 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 19:56 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 20:29 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 22:19 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-05 22:25 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:40 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07 6:43 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-08 13:48 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-07 8:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08 15:55 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:41 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:53 ` Ross Zwisler [this message]
2016-02-02 0:02 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 7:10 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02 10:34 ` Jan Kara
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