From: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 16:38:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160204233801.GA5365@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160204091558.GB4956@quack.suse.cz>
On Thu, Feb 04, 2016 at 10:15:58AM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
<>
> Yes, you are right. filemap_write_and_wait_range() actually doesn't
> guarantee data durability. That function only means all dirty data has been
> sent to storage and the storage has acknowledged them. This is noop for
> PMEM. So we are perfectly fine ignoring calls to
> filemap_write_and_wait_range(). What guarantees data durability are only
> ->fsync() and ->sync_fs() calls. But some code could get upset by seeing
> that filemap_write_and_wait_range() didn't actually get rid of dirty pages
> (in some special cases like inode eviction or similar). That's why I'd
> choose one of the two options for consistency:
>
> 1) Treat inode indexes to flush as close to dirty pages as we can - this
> means inode is dirty with all the tracking associated with it, radix tree
> entries have dirty tag, we get rid of these in ->writepages(). We are close
> to this currently.
I think we're actually pretty far from this, at least for v4.5. The issue is
that I don't think we can safely clear radix tree dirty entries during the DAX
code that is called via ->writepages(). To do this correctly we would need to
also mark the PTE as clean so that when the userspace process next writes to
their mmap mapping we would get a new fault to make the page writable. This
would allow us to re-dirty the DAX entry in the radix tree.
I implemented code to do this in v2 of my set, but ripped it out in v3:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/13/759 (DAX fsync v2)
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/12/8/583 (DAX fsync v3)
The race that compelled this removal is described here:
https://lists.01.org/pipermail/linux-nvdimm/2016-January/004057.html
(sorry for all the links)
Anyway, for v4.5 I think whatever solution we come up with must be okay with
an ever growing list of dirty radix tree entries, as we currently have. Are
you aware of a reason why this won't work, or was the cleaning of the radix
tree entries just a good goal to have? (And I agree it is a good goal, I just
don't know how to do it safely.)
> 2) Completely avoid the dirty tracking and writeback code and reimplement
> everything in DAX code.
>
> Because some hybrid between these is IMHO bound to provoke weird (and very
> hard to find) bugs.
>
> > > So revisiting the decision I see two options:
> > >
> > > 1) Move the DAX flushing code from filemap_write_and_wait() into
> > > ->writepages() fs callback. There the filesystem can provide all the
> > > information it needs including bdev, get_block callback, or whatever.
> >
> > This seems fine as long as we add it to ->fsync as well since ->writepages is
> > never called in that path, and as long as we are okay with skipping DAX
> > writebacks on hole punch, truncate, and block relocation.
>
> Look at ext4_sync_file() -> filemap_write_and_wait_range() ->
> __filemap_fdatawrite_range() -> do_writepages(). Except those nrpages > 0
> checks which would need to be changed.
Ah, cool, I missed this path. Thank you for setting me straight.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-04 23:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-28 19:35 [PATCH 1/2] block: fix pfn_mkwrite() DAX fault handler Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 20:21 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-28 21:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-01-29 18:28 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-29 23:34 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-30 0:18 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 22:44 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-30 5:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-30 6:01 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-30 7:08 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-31 2:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 6:12 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-31 10:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 16:38 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:18 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:50 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 19:51 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-01 13:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 14:51 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-01 20:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 21:47 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02 6:06 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 6:46 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 8:05 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 16:51 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 21:46 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-03 0:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03 1:21 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 11:17 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 16:33 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 16:46 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 17:10 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:34 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 17:46 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:47 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 18:24 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-02 18:59 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 20:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03 11:09 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 10:46 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 20:13 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 9:15 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 23:38 ` Ross Zwisler [this message]
2016-02-06 23:15 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07 5:27 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 19:56 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 20:29 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 22:19 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-05 22:25 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:40 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07 6:43 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-08 13:48 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-07 8:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08 15:55 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:41 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:53 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 0:02 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 7:10 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02 10:34 ` Jan Kara
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