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From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v2 11/18] fs: Ensure the mounter of a filesystem is privileged towards its inodes
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 09:48:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160306154832.GA13631@ubuntu-xps13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87twkl50g5.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 04:43:06PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 12:03:50PM -0600, Seth Forshee wrote:
> >> The mounter of a filesystem should be privileged towards the
> >> inodes of that filesystem. Extend the checks in
> >> inode_owner_or_capable() and capable_wrt_inode_uidgid() to
> >> permit access by users priviliged in the user namespace of the
> >> inode's superblock.
> >
> > Eric - I've discovered a problem related to this patch. The patches
> > you've already applied to your testing branch make it so that s_user_ns
> > can be an unprivileged user for proc and kernfs-based mounts. In some
> > cases DAC is the only thing protecting files in these mounts (ignoring
> > MAC), and with this patch an unprivileged user could bypass DAC.
> >
> > There's a simple solution - always set s_user_ns to &init_user_ns for
> > those filesystems. I think this is the right thing to do, since the
> > backing store behind these filesystems are really kernel objects.  But
> > this would break the assumption behind your patch "userns: Simpilify
> > MNT_NODEV handling" and cause a regression in mounting behavior.
> >
> > I've come up with several possible solutions for this conflict.
> >
> >  1. Drop this patch and keep on setting s_user_ns to unprivilged users.
> >     This would be unfortunate because I think this patch does make sense
> >     for most filesystems.
> >  2. Restrict this patch so that a user privileged towards s_user_ns is
> >     only privileged towards the super blocks inodes if s_user_ns has a
> >     mapping for both i_uid and i_gid. This is better than (1) but still
> >     not ideal in my mind.
> >  3. Drop your patch and maintain the current MNT_NODEV behavior.
> >  4. Add a new s_iflags flag to indicate a super block is from an
> >     unprivileged mount, and use this in your patch instead of s_user_ns.
> >
> > Any preference, or any other ideas?
> 
> In general this is only an issue if uids and gids on the filesystem
> do not map into the user namespace.

Yes, both capable_wrt_inode_uidgid and inode_owner_or_capable will
return true for a privileged user in the current namespace if the ids
map into that namespace.

> Therefore the general fix is to limit the logic of checking for
> capabilities in s_user_ns if we are dealing with INVALID_UID and
> INVALID_GID.  For proc and kernfs that should never be the case
> so the problem becomes a non-issue.
> 
> Further I would look at limiting that relaxation to just
> inode_change_ok.  So that we can easily wrap that check per filesystem
> and deny the relaxation for proc and kernfs.  proc and kernfs already
> have wrappers for .setattr so denying changes when !uid_vaid and
> !gid_valid would be a trivial addition, and ensure calamity does
> not ensure.
> 
> Furthmore by limiting any additional to inode_change_ok we keep
> the work of the additional tests off of the fast paths.

So then the inode would need to be chowned before a privileged user in a
non-init namespace would be capable towards it. That seems workable. It
looks like INVALID_UID and INVALID_GID do map into init_user_ns (which
seems a bit odd) so real root remains capable towards those indoes.

That seems okay to me then.

Thanks,
Seth

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-06 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-04 18:03 [PATCH RESEND v2 00/19] Support fuse mounts in user namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 01/18] block_dev: Support checking inode permissions in lookup_bdev() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 02/18] block_dev: Check permissions towards block device inode when mounting Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 03/18] fs: Treat foreign mounts as nosuid Seth Forshee
2016-03-15 12:09   ` [PATCH] fs: remove excess check for in_userns Pavel Tikhomirov
2016-03-15 13:45     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-15 14:19       ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2016-03-15 14:19       ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2016-03-22 23:19       ` James Morris
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 04/18] selinux: Add support for unprivileged mounts from user namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 05/18] userns: Replace in_userns with current_in_userns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 06/18] Smack: Handle labels consistently in untrusted mounts Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 07/18] fs: Check for invalid i_uid in may_follow_link() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 08/18] cred: Reject inodes with invalid ids in set_create_file_as() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 09/18] fs: Refuse uid/gid changes which don't map into s_user_ns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 10/18] fs: Update posix_acl support to handle user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 11/18] fs: Ensure the mounter of a filesystem is privileged towards its inodes Seth Forshee
2016-03-03 17:02   ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-04 22:43     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-06 15:48       ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2016-03-06 22:07         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-07 13:32           ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-28 16:59       ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-30  1:36         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-30 14:58           ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-30 20:18             ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 12/18] fs: Don't remove suid for CAP_FSETID in s_user_ns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 13/18] fs: Allow superblock owner to access do_remount_sb() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 14/18] capabilities: Allow privileged user in s_user_ns to set security.* xattrs Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 15/18] fuse: Add support for pid namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 10:53   ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-09 14:17     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 16/18] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 11:29   ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-09 14:18     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 14:48       ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-09 15:25         ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 15:51           ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-09 17:07             ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-14 20:58               ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-25 20:31                 ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 17/18] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 11:40   ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 18/18] fuse: Allow user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 13:08   ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-01-25 19:47 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 00/19] Support fuse mounts in user namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-25 20:01   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-01-25 20:36     ` Seth Forshee

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