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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: "Drokin, Oleg" <oleg.drokin@intel.com>
Cc: "Dilger, Andreas" <andreas.dilger@intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>
Subject: Re: races in ll_splice_alias() and elsewhere (ext4, ocfs2)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:43:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160310044316.GI17997@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D6C19A11-2C3A-40D6-A9EB-AF05674DA142@intel.com>

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 03:46:43AM +0000, Drokin, Oleg wrote:

> > Wait a minute.  If it's hashed, has the right name and the right parent,
> > why the hell are we calling ->lookup() on a new dentry in the first place?
> > Why hadn't we simply picked it from dcache?
> 
> This is because of the trickery we do in the d_compare.
> our d_compare looks at the "invalid" flag and if it's set, returns "not matching",
> triggering the lookup instead of revalidate.
> This makes revalidate simple and fast.
> (We used to have a complicated revalidate with a lot of code duplication with
> lookup in order to be able to query the server and pass all sorts of data there
> and it was nothing but trouble).

*Ugh*...  That's really nasty.  We certainly could make d_exact_match()
accept unhashed ones and make rehashing conditional (NFS doesn't pull
anything similar, so it won't care), but your ->d_revalidate()
has exact same problem as ext4_d_revalidate() one mentioned upthread -
there's no warranty that dentry->d_parent will stay stable.

We are *NOT* guaranteed locked parent when ->d_revalidate() is called, or
we would have to lock every damn directory on the way through the pathname
resolution.  Moreover, ->d_revalidate() really can overlap with rename(2).

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-10  4:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-08 16:05 races in ll_splice_alias() Al Viro
2016-03-08 20:44 ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-08 21:11   ` Al Viro
2016-03-08 23:18     ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-09  0:34       ` Al Viro
2016-03-09  0:53         ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-09  1:26           ` Al Viro
2016-03-09  5:20             ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-09 23:47             ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-10  2:20               ` races in ll_splice_alias() and elsewhere (ext4, ocfs2) Al Viro
2016-03-10  2:59                 ` Al Viro
2016-03-10 23:55                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-11  3:18                     ` Al Viro
2016-03-11 15:42                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-10  3:08                 ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-10  3:34                   ` Al Viro
2016-03-10  3:46                     ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-10  4:22                       ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-10  4:43                       ` Al Viro [this message]
2016-03-10  5:15                         ` Al Viro
2016-03-11  3:47                           ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-10  5:47                         ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-10 19:59                 ` Al Viro
2016-03-10 20:34                   ` do we need that smp_wmb() in __d_alloc()? Al Viro
2016-03-10 21:17                     ` Al Viro
2016-03-10 21:22                   ` races in ll_splice_alias() and elsewhere (ext4, ocfs2) Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-10 23:23                     ` Al Viro
2016-03-11  3:25                       ` Drokin, Oleg
2016-03-12 17:22                         ` Al Viro
2016-03-13 14:35                           ` Sage Weil

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