From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [REVIEW][PATCH] mm: Add a user_ns owner to mm_struct and fix ptrace_may_access
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:06:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161018180624.GA27792@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8737jt903u.fsf@xmission.com>
On Tue 18-10-16 09:56:53, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> writes:
>
> > On Mon 17-10-16 11:39:49, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >>
> >> During exec dumpable is cleared if the file that is being executed is
> >> not readable by the user executing the file. A bug in
> >> ptrace_may_access allows reading the file if the executable happens to
> >> enter into a subordinate user namespace (aka clone(CLONE_NEWUSER),
> >> unshare(CLONE_NEWUSER), or setns(fd, CLONE_NEWUSER).
> >>
> >> This problem is fixed with only necessary userspace breakage by adding
> >> a user namespace owner to mm_struct, captured at the time of exec,
> >> so it is clear in which user namespace CAP_SYS_PTRACE must be present
> >> in to be able to safely give read permission to the executable.
> >>
> >> The function ptrace_may_access is modified to verify that the ptracer
> >> has CAP_SYS_ADMIN in task->mm->user_ns instead of task->cred->user_ns.
> >> This ensures that if the task changes it's cred into a subordinate
> >> user namespace it does not become ptraceable.
> >
> > I haven't studied your patch too deeply but one thing that immediately
> > raised a red flag was that mm might be shared between processes (aka
> > thread groups). What prevents those two to sit in different user
> > namespaces?
> >
> > I am primarily asking because this generated a lot of headache for the
> > memcg handling as those processes might sit in different cgroups while
> > there is only one correct memcg for them which can disagree with the
> > cgroup associated with one of the processes.
>
> That is a legitimate concern, but I do not see any of those kinds of
> issues here.
>
> Part of the memcg pain comes from the fact that control groups are
> process centric, and part of the pain comes from the fact that it is
> possible to change control groups. What I am doing is making the mm
> owned by a user namespace (at creation time), and I am not allowing
> changes to that ownership. The credentials of the tasks that use that mm
> may be in the same user namespace or descendent user namespaces.
OK, then my worries about this weird "threading" model is void.
Thanks for the clarification.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-17 16:39 [REVIEW][PATCH] mm: Add a user_ns owner to mm_struct and fix ptrace_may_access Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-17 17:25 ` Jann Horn
2016-10-17 17:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-18 13:50 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-18 13:57 ` Jann Horn
2016-10-18 14:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-18 15:05 ` Jann Horn
2016-10-18 15:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-18 19:12 ` Jann Horn
2016-10-18 21:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-18 21:15 ` [REVIEW][PATCH] exec: Don't exec files the userns root can not read Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 6:13 ` Amir Goldstein
2016-10-19 13:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 17:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 15:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-10-19 16:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 17:29 ` Jann Horn
2016-10-19 17:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-10-19 17:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 18:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-10-19 21:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 23:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-17 17:02 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 0/3] Fixing ptrace vs exec vs userns interactions Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 17:05 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 1/3] ptrace: Capture the ptracer's creds not PT_PTRACE_CAP Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 23:14 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-18 18:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 23:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-17 23:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 17:08 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/3] exec: Don't allow ptracing an exec of an unreadable file Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 20:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2016-11-17 21:07 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-17 21:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2016-11-17 21:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 22:50 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/3] ptrace: Don't allow accessing an undumpable mm Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 23:17 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-17 23:28 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/3] exec: Don't allow ptracing an exec of an unreadable file Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-17 23:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-17 23:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-18 0:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-18 0:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 17:10 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 3/3] exec: Ensure mm->user_ns contains the execed files Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-19 7:17 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 0/3] Fixing ptrace vs exec vs userns interactions Willy Tarreau
2016-11-19 9:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2016-11-19 9:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2016-11-19 18:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-19 18:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-19 18:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 18:36 ` [REVIEW][PATCH] exec: Don't exec files the userns root can not read Andy Lutomirski
2016-10-18 18:06 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
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