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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	tytso@mit.edu, jack@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] fs: introduce new writeback error tracking infrastructure and convert ext4 to use it
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 09:12:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170404161247.GJ30811@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1491308268.20445.4.camel@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 08:17:48AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> Agreed that we should focus on POSIX compliance. I'll also note that
> POSIX states:
> 
> "If more than one error occurs in processing a function call, any one
> of the possible errors may be returned, as the order of
> detection is undefined."
> 
>     http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/V2_chap02.html#tag_15_03
> 
> So, I'd like to push back on this idea that we need to prefer reporting
> -EIO over other errors. POSIX certainly doesn't mandate that. 

I honestly wonder if we need to support ENOSPC from writeback at all.
Looking at our history, the AS_EIO / AS_ENOSPC came from this patch
in 2003:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tglx/history.git/commit/?id=fcad2b42fc2e15a94ba1a1ba8535681a735bfd16

That seems to come from here:
http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0308.0/0205.html
which is marked as a resend, but I can't find the original.

It's a little misleading because the immediately preceding patch
introduced mapping->error, so there's no precedent here to speak of.
It looks like we used to just silently lose writeback errors (*cough*).

I'd like to suggest that maybe we don't need to support multiple errors
at all.  That all errors, including ENOSPC, get collapsed into EIO.
POSIX already tells us to do that for close() and permits us to do that
for fsync().

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-04 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-31 19:25 [RFC PATCH 0/4] fs: introduce new writeback error tracking infrastructure and convert ext4 to use it Jeff Layton
2017-03-31 19:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] fs: new infrastructure for writeback error handling and reporting Jeff Layton
2017-04-03  7:12   ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-04-03 10:28     ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 14:47   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-03 15:19     ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 16:15       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-03 16:30         ` Jeff Layton
2017-03-31 19:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] dax: set errors in mapping when writeback fails Jeff Layton
2017-03-31 19:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] buffer: set wb errors using both new and old infrastructure for now Jeff Layton
2017-03-31 19:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] ext4: wire it up to the new writeback error reporting infrastructure Jeff Layton
2017-04-03  4:25 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] fs: introduce new writeback error tracking infrastructure and convert ext4 to use it NeilBrown
2017-04-03 10:28   ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 14:32     ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-03 17:47       ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 18:09         ` Jeremy Allison
2017-04-03 18:18           ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 18:36             ` Jeremy Allison
2017-04-03 18:40               ` Jeremy Allison
2017-04-03 18:49                 ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 19:16         ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-03 20:16           ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-04  2:45             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-04  3:03             ` NeilBrown
2017-04-04 11:41               ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-04 22:41                 ` NeilBrown
2017-04-04 11:53               ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-04 12:17                 ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-04 16:12                   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2017-04-04 16:25                     ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-04 17:09                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-04 18:08                         ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-04 22:50                         ` NeilBrown
2017-04-05 19:49                         ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-05 21:03                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-06  0:19                             ` NeilBrown
2017-04-06  0:02                           ` NeilBrown
2017-04-06  2:55                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-06  5:12                               ` NeilBrown
2017-04-06 13:31                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-06 21:53                                   ` NeilBrown
2017-04-06 14:02                             ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-06 19:14                             ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-06 20:05                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-07 13:12                                 ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-09 23:15                                   ` NeilBrown
2017-04-10 13:19                                     ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-06 22:15                               ` NeilBrown
2017-04-04 23:13                       ` NeilBrown
2017-04-05 11:14                         ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-06  0:24                           ` NeilBrown
2017-04-04 13:38                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-04-04 22:28                 ` NeilBrown
2017-04-03 14:51   ` Matthew Wilcox

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