From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@gmail.com>
To: David Gstir <david@sigma-star.at>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, jaegeuk@kernel.org, dwalter@sigma-star.at,
richard@sigma-star.at, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fscrypt: Add support for AES-128-CBC
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:56:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170426215616.GA104929@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <451DF465-A8CA-4F54-9EC1-67B49B522D0B@sigma-star.at>
Hi David,
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:18:51AM +0200, David Gstir wrote:
> > 3.) It's always keying the ESSIV transform using a 256-bit AES key. It's still
> > secure of course, but I'm not sure it's what you intended, given that it's
> > used in combination with AES-128. I really think that someone who's more of
> > an expert on ESSIV really should weigh in, but my intuition is that you
> > really only need to be using AES-128, using the first 'keysize' bytes of the
> > hash.
>
> My intention is to use all 256 bits we get from the hash. Yes, this will then use
> AES-256 for the IV generation, but this will still yield just a 128 bit IV for
> file contents encryption since the block size of AES is the same. So this is
> just a case of using AES with a 256 bit key over a 128 bit one which is then
> used for AES-128 computations.
>
> On the other hand, as you pointed out, truncating the hash and using AES-128 *should*
> suffice too. Especially since we are using AES-128 everywhere else!
>
> I'm also no export on ESSIV, so I'm not a 100% sure if there is something we're
> missing here. If using AES-128 is okay, I'll change it to truncate the hash.
>
After thinking about it some more I'm actually slightly leaning towards AES-256,
since it matches the size of the message digest being used. I think that's how
ESSIV was designed to work, since message digests are not necessarily designed
to be truncated. Also I doubt there would be any noticable performance
difference from using AES-256 instead of AES-128, given that it's just for the
IV generation and not for the "real" encryption.
On the other hand, the message digest *is* hard-coded to SHA-256, and the
SHA-256 specification actually states that it can be truncated, with the
collision resistance decreased in the expected way.
>
> One optimization Richard pointed out is that we should do the
> crypto_alloc_shash("sha256", 0, 0) just once and reuse hash_tfm for all sha256 computations.
> This will save us some alloc/frees in derive_essiv_salt.
>
Yes, I had the same idea too. I suggest allocating it only the first time it's
used rather than always doing it in fscrypt_init(), since not everyone will be
needing it.
- Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-04-26 21:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-30 17:38 [PATCH] fscrypt: Add support for AES-128-CBC David Gstir
2017-03-31 6:21 ` Eric Biggers
2017-03-31 6:36 ` Eric Biggers
2017-03-31 11:11 ` David Gstir
2017-04-25 14:41 ` [PATCH v2] " David Gstir
2017-04-25 20:10 ` Eric Biggers
2017-04-26 6:18 ` David Gstir
2017-04-26 21:56 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2017-05-17 11:21 ` [PATCH v3] " David Gstir
2017-05-17 18:08 ` Eric Biggers
2017-05-18 13:43 ` David Gstir
2017-05-23 5:11 ` [PATCH v4] " David Gstir
2017-05-23 19:00 ` Eric Biggers
2017-05-31 15:57 ` David Gstir
2017-06-01 14:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-15 20:41 ` Michael Halcrow
2017-06-15 20:48 ` Eric Biggers
2017-06-16 7:39 ` David Gstir
2017-06-19 7:27 ` [PATCH v5] " David Gstir
2017-06-24 0:09 ` Theodore Ts'o
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