From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org>
Cc: xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: freeze filesystems just prior to reboot
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 12:01:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170519190115.GJ4519@birch.djwong.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1495202431.1896310.982081664.066926F8@webmail.messagingengine.com>
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:00:31AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, May 18, 2017, at 08:20 PM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>
> > Therefore, add a reboot hook to freeze all filesystems (which in general
> > will induce ext4/xfs/btrfs to checkpoint the log) just prior to reboot.
> > This is an unfortunate and insufficient workaround for multiple layers
> > of inadequate external software, but at least it will reduce boot time
> > surprises for the "OS updater failed to disengage the filesystem before
> > rebooting" case.
>
> As a maintainer of one of those userspace tools
> (https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree), which I don't think is the one
> in question here, but likely has the same issue - I'd like to have
> some sort of API to fix this - maybe flush the journal *without*
> remounting r/o?
The convention (at least among ext4 and xfs) is that fs freeze should be
checkpointing the journal.
> Unlike the case you're talking about with rebooting into a special
> update mode, libostree constructs a new root with hardlinks while
> the system is running. Hence, system downtime is just reboot, like
> dual-partition update systems, except we're more flexible.
>
> Although hm...I guess an API to flush the journal would only narrow
> the race.
>
> Is the single partition case really just doomed?
Probably. TBH given the current behavior of grub, I would always have a
separate /boot to minimize the amount it's allowed to touch. :)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-19 19:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-19 0:20 [PATCH] vfs: freeze filesystems just prior to reboot Darrick J. Wong
2017-05-19 8:29 ` Amir Goldstein
2017-05-19 18:58 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-05-19 14:00 ` Colin Walters
2017-05-19 15:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-05-19 16:34 ` Colin Walters
2017-05-19 16:48 ` Colin Walters
2017-05-19 18:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-05-19 19:41 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-05-23 11:10 ` Jan Kara
2017-05-19 19:01 ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2017-08-03 20:24 ` Colin Walters
2017-08-05 14:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-05 15:45 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-11 10:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-11 16:26 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-11 16:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
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