From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Shuah Khan <shuahkhan@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
mchehab@s-opensource.com, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, bart.vanassche@wdc.com,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] pm: remove kernel thread freezing
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 23:18:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171003211846.GB5659@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKocOOM6M5HbTA24wStNFnOTVR6vHc76h6cXT=OcMV2e3XSy9w@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 03:09:53PM -0600, Shuah Khan wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Oct 2017, Pavel Machek wrote:
> >
> >> > Again, I agree that the (rare) kthreads that are actually "creating" new
> >> > I/O have to be somehow frozen and require special care.
> >>
> >> Agreed. Was any effort made to identify those special kernel threads?
> >
> > I don't think there is any other way than just inspecting all the
> > try_to_freeze() instances in the kernel, and understanding what that
> > particular kthread is doing.
> >
> > I've cleaned up most of the low-hanging fruit already, where the
> > try_to_freeze() was obviously completely pointless, but a lot more time
> > needs to be invested into this.
> >
>
> There are about 36 drivers that call try_to_freeze() and half (18 ) of
> those are media drivers. Maybe it is easier handle sub-system by
> sub-system basis for a review of which one of these usages could be
> removed. cc'ing Mauro and linux-media
Yes :)
I guess no one reads cover letters, but indeed. To be clear, this last
patch should only go in after a few kernels from now all kthreads
are vetted for piece-meal wise.
This patch would be the nail on the kthread freezer coffin. It should
go in last, who knows how many years from now, and if ever.
Luis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-03 21:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-03 18:53 [RFC 0/5] fs: replace kthread freezing with filesystem freeze/thaw Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 18:53 ` [RFC 1/5] fs: add iterate_supers_reverse() Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 18:53 ` [RFC 2/5] fs: freeze on suspend and thaw on resume Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:23 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:39 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:06 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:58 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-03 21:16 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 18:53 ` [RFC 3/5] xfs: allow fs freeze on suspend/hibernation Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 18:53 ` [RFC 4/5] ext4: add fs freezing support " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 19:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-03 20:13 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-04 1:42 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-04 7:05 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-04 15:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-04 15:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-04 16:48 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-04 22:22 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-03 18:53 ` [RFC 5/5] pm: remove kernel thread freezing Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 18:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-10-03 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-10-04 0:47 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-04 1:03 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-29 23:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-04 7:18 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-03 20:12 ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-03 20:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:21 ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-03 20:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-10-03 20:57 ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-03 21:00 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 21:09 ` Shuah Khan
2017-10-03 21:18 ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2017-10-03 20:49 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-06 12:07 ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-06 12:54 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-03 20:13 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:24 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:27 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 21:04 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-03 21:07 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-04 6:07 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-03 19:33 ` [RFC 0/5] fs: replace kthread freezing with filesystem freeze/thaw Ming Lei
2017-10-03 20:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-03 20:54 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-04 15:43 ` Ming Lei
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