From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: hard-ban creating files with control characters in the name
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 09:03:07 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171008220307.GW15067@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171006145701.GB18373@bombadil.infradead.org>
On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 07:57:01AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 01:09:42PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 12:16:19PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > > This kind of restriction sounds more like a permanent feature of the
> > > filesystem--something you'd set at mkfs time.
> > >
> > > We already have filesystems with these kinds of restrictions, don't we?
> >
> > In general, no. Filename storage typically defined in the
> > filesystem on-disk formats as an opaque string of bytes - the
> > filesystem has no business parsing them to determine validity of the
> > bytes. Think encrypted filenames and the like - control characters
> > in the on-disk format are most definitely necessary and therefore
> > must be legal.
>
> Umm. But filenames still can't have / or \0 in them, so your encryption
> already has to avoid at least two special characters.
Filesystems can have those characters on disk without any problems.
Most filesytsems do not null terminate dirents on disk - instead
they keep a dirent length on disk to determine the length of the
entry. "Opaque" means null is a valid character, not an "end of
string" delimiter.
Keep in mind that "/" is an OS dependent special character - other
OS use different directory delimiters so have a different set of
"special characters". This reinforces the fact that it is not the
filesystem's job to police what is stored on disk - the filesysetm
is just a GIGO filename storage mechanism - you get out exactly what
you put in...
> I agree with your main point though; there is no advantage to doing this
> in each individual filesystem.
Yup, especially when we consider filesystems that get mounted and
written by different OS and independent filesystem
implementations....
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-08 22:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-03 0:50 [PATCH] vfs: hard-ban creating files with control characters in the name Adam Borowski
2017-10-03 2:07 ` Al Viro
2017-10-03 3:22 ` Adam Borowski
2017-10-05 10:07 ` Olivier Galibert
2017-10-06 14:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-03 16:40 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-03 17:32 ` Adam Borowski
2017-10-03 18:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-03 19:12 ` Casey Schaufler
2017-10-05 16:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-10-06 2:09 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-06 14:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-10-06 14:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-06 20:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-08 22:03 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2017-10-05 13:47 ` Alan Cox
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